Above the bridge
Above the bridge
Episode 143 RONI YURONG (Owner of ERS)
This reunion conversation with Roni—who appeared on the second-ever episode of Above The Bridge nearly five years ago—dives deep into life's most fundamental questions while remaining refreshingly practical.
The longtime friends explore how decision-making shapes everything from athletic success to business ventures to parenting. Roni shares wisdom gained from watching his son pursue professional soccer through Houston Dynamo's academy program, while Thaddeus reflects on supporting his daughter's volleyball journey. Both agree that parents can't expect their children to become champions unless they demonstrate championship qualities themselves.
Their discussion challenges conventional thinking at every turn. Ronnie suggests that positivity isn't something to strive for but rather an authentic expression of one's true self. He proposes that goals aren't rewards but merely directions—the real value lies in the journey itself. Perhaps most mind-expanding is their exploration of time as merely a man-made construct, with Ronnie describing existence as "the eternal moment" where everything happens simultaneously.
The conversation also touches on personal transformation, with Thaddeus acknowledging Roni remarkable journey from his self-described "loser" phase to becoming a successful business owner and dedicated father. Throughout, their friendship shines through as they reflect on raising children, building businesses, and navigating life's complexities with authenticity and purpose.
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Speaker 2:Aloha, okay, this week my guest is somebody I had on my second all-time episode ever when I first started and I always said I wanted to have him back on, and he's one of my closest friends. He owns Environmental Roofing Solutions. He also was one of the founding members of the boy band group BBC Hobo House on the Hill Records and, of course, artist Groove Network C Hobo House on the Hill Records and, of course, artist Groove Network, and everybody knows him as Ronnie and I know him as my brother. What's up, ronnie? What's up Ted Bruh? Did you know that you were my second guest on my show?
Speaker 1:and I've been doing it for almost five years. Yeah, I remember you telling me it was so quick.
Speaker 2:Five years went by so fast. Yep, this is gonna be the 141st or 42nd episode that that's how fast we're getting older. Oh yeah, bro, we are definitely not spring chickens anymore. Do you feel your age or no?
Speaker 1:it was kind of funny. I was reading, you know, lanai, yeah, he posted. He posted something and I was laughing it. It said I'm at the age where I'm old. I'm young to the old people, the older people, and I'm old to the younger people okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:We look younger than what we really are and I think I know for me, my, my age was a sensitive topic, because I always want to be young and I'm, I'm always trying to, I act like little kids still. Yeah, you know, I mean like, so my, my um appearance is, or was it more important that I look young? But as I'm getting older, I kind of don't care and I kind of embrace it more and I definitely feel more healthier and more alive than I did when I was younger, if that makes sense yeah, you know, it's funny.
Speaker 1:I always, I always, all you always watch, you're gonna remember this. Now everybody uses this, this um terminology, so loosely and it's, it's, it's, it's hilarious, um, you know, for the first time in history, or, or there's a, there's the latest fight, it's the baddest fight in history, and they've been saying that when Sugar Ray Leonard one fight um Hearns or whatever, yeah, and it's like, like, so we, you know, at this age, I, I even say that like, oh, yeah, I feel healthier than ever.
Speaker 1:But it's like, really, when I was 20, I'm sure I said the same thing and I felt healthier than ever. Yeah, was that recency bias, I guess, I mean and it's, and the reason why we do that is because we live in the now, yeah, now.
Speaker 2:So everything is happening right now or you know like, or you're denying the fact that your best years is behind us and you say I'm the healthiest I've ever been, because in reality, the healthiest I've ever been was when I was training and competing. But yeah, like as of like, maybe like the last 15, 16 years, I've been taking my health a lot more serious. I did the spartan race, which was a bucket list thing for me, which almost killed me, but I made it through. But because of that it motivated me to get in better shape, do more for my body and health, and I was talking to you and frank today about changing up my diet and I I want to look a little better for when I get married.
Speaker 1:Can you hear it? Can you hear my little Frenchies right there?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I didn't know you had two of them. I got two now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yeah, you know good, that's good that you what made you want to change your diet good that, that's good that you what?
Speaker 2:what made you want to change your diet?
Speaker 2:I wanted to change my diet, honestly, because I felt like I was getting in a point of my life where I was using food and bad habits like sugar and sweets and that kind of stuff as a um, like a crutch, like I'm trying to not drink as much and stuff like that. But then I find myself eating more candies and because I have a daughter, she brings home a lot of snacks and brah I've been just pounding, and then sugar. Then, like the older I get, like the more sweets and junk food I eat, the more it affects me the next day, like my hands are swollen or like my face looks puffy and I'm like, well, if the food that I'm eating is making my me feel and look that way, then I gotta change it up. You know, I mean like I know it works for you, because seeing you after you dieted a few times, like it, is you not like that you were in bad shape or anything, but your, your complexion and your, your stature kind of changed a little bit you know it was, it was interesting.
Speaker 1:Um, I would, uh, I would. I would always eat at Aloha salads, right, and you know you thinking that fish was better for you, or vegetables Everybody thinks vegetables, yeah, and never changed. I will always wait about. You know, I'll stay in between. I always go between 150 and 158. Never got to 160. But I was always in between that and no matter what I did, I would stay in that 150. And I just changed to eating what I eat. Now I'm in high school weight like 137, 138 pounds, oh, wow.
Speaker 2:But see, you don't look like you've lost weight, you don't look all frail and stuff you look stronger. You look stronger.
Speaker 1:It was funny because when I went to do an estimate the other day, the lady came on and she was like oh, you must really work out. And I said not really. And she said I do some push-ups, I do push-ups and stuff, but that's about it. I don't really work out, but I do do push-ups and I have um weird this is weird I have dumbbells in my bathroom and whenever I go to the bathroom I do like 20, 25, I do 20, and then when I go back in again, even if I'm going to brush my teeth, I do 20. So whenever I go into the bathroom there's always 20. Hold on, I got to turn off the oven, hold on, no worries.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I have dumbbells in my bathroom.
Speaker 2:So if you take a long dump, that's like a good workout for you then 20, 20,.
Speaker 1:I got 20. 20 reps it's always 20.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's something, bro, and, like I said, I wanted to change some stuff up.
Speaker 2:And seeing you and talking to frank and actually was praying about it and I was explaining this to frank today, I I was asking god to help me, um, put into perspective how, what changes I need to do. And for multiple spots in the last couple months, that carnivore diet kept popping up and I realized like, okay, maybe this is god trying to steer me in that direction and I gotta kind of listen to listen to the signs that okay, maybe this is something I should try. And the last one, I was in the sauna and one of the guys he was all shredded and he started talking to me about his carnivore diet and I'm like, okay, well, I think maybe I should try it and I talked to you and Frankie about it. I started it maybe like a couple of days. I already dropped three pounds, but I feel different already and it's only been like three, four days and I don't know. Maybe you guys are on to something, but you definitely got got in my head about um, trying it out well, I did it.
Speaker 1:I did it mainly for this reason. Um, I was, I was a gymnast when I was young and I did. I used to like run on the concrete, do like a front, flip, step out out, round off back and spring back and spring back, layout on the road like nothing all the time, and but it caught up to me, oh yeah. So I could feel as I got older, I felt the. I felt like I was. I got arthritis and arthritis is inflammation. I felt like I got arthritis and arthritis is inflammation. And I also have the worst allergies you could ever imagine. Like I never, ever knew what it was to breathe through both of my nose. It just I always, I'm always stuffy, I'm always puffy, I died and it's all inflammation. So I did it because my arthritis is getting really bad and I was starting to get psoriasis believe it or not, and the skin stuff, yes. And then when I went to see um, you know, doctors and stuff, they prescribed me things and I don't know. I just didn't feel that trim fire. I just knew something was wrong with it and I I said, nope, I'm not going to do it. And then I heard about people having arthritis and psoriasis, and they did the carnivore. So I tried it for myself and gone, vanished. Zero arthritis, zero inflammation. I can breathe through my nose. I don't have any allergies. Stuffy eyes, adult acne everything just gone, gone, gone. I'm down to my high school weight. Um, way more energy.
Speaker 1:I. I really do believe that the, the sauna, um, is also phenomenal. Yeah, like my veins, like my veins is like crazy. Seriously, I'm like it's kind of scary sometimes, but I mean, I think the sauna is phenomenal for your cardiovascular. I don't think I actually there's a study on it that said it's up to 52% less chance of getting a heart attack and a stroke.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so I decided to do that. But my skin got super good my, my, my art, my arteries. So this is what's funny. My doctor actually said oh, run, you look, you look good, but you can probably die. That's exactly what I said. Why? Why? Because you're only eating meat. So he sent me to a specialist to go. You have to sit inside and scan your heart and your veins, I guess, for plaque. Yeah, yeah, whatever. And so I did it. You got to go in that big x-ray thing and I went back to see him and he said I just asked, asked him so what did you guys find? And he says it quietly, like your heart is better than most people and I was like, and what?
Speaker 1:and what and he's like, and I told him I said no, all the stuff he was prescribing me never worked. I went no, I don't have no psoriasis, no arthritis. And he told me that's weird. And I said why? Because you can't prescribe me drugs he's right, bro.
Speaker 2:I mean, back in the day nobody had drugs, but then nobody had all these stupid ass ailments that plague society now, because all the preservatives and all the crap we eat, it's all what we eat.
Speaker 1:period, that's it, um, but, but then, but then again I have to be careful as I'm getting older, um to say that everybody's different. Yeah, everybody is different. And um, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta try it for yourself. Um, different things and you see what your body like, for instance. So I went I mean, people freak out like, really, ronnie, you, you only eat meat. I'm like, yep, what'd you eat for breakfast? I said I don't eat breakfast. Um, but if I eat, I eat meat, and uh, and even when I go to order food, it's so funny because people get so I mean, it's so simple, and I just get so thrown off. I go to the steak place and I say I'll just get steak. Oh, what about rice or vegetables? Oh, no, just give me the steak. Oh, we don't sell it that way. Just like, uh, just charge me the price for the for the plate then, but just give me the spoke. You know, they don't even know how to adjust.
Speaker 2:I'm like, wow, I know I'm sorry, really we can give you.
Speaker 1:we can give you more're going to give you more steak. Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2:But yeah, just from your example motivated me to try it out. And, bro, I'm getting married in a few months and I want to look my best and feel my best when that happens. I was just thinking about when you got married and that was one of the the best weddings I've ever been to, bar none. It was so cool it was. It was just what you and your wife, me, peter, your brother lawrence and the pastor right was there, britney, I don't think Lawrence was there.
Speaker 2:Brittany. No, lawrence was there too, I think. Yes, he got. He had to have been there, cause we need dinner with him after oh was he yeah? Yep.
Speaker 1:You know it was. It was um, probably because it was absolutely not planned.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not planned. Yeah, it was a free uh, free flowing, yeah it was. It was pretty awesome. But to me, what I loved about it the most, it wasn't about the and because I'm planning, or my wife my wife to be is planning this big freaking thing. I appreciated the fact that your wedding was about you and Shan. It was about the love that you guys shared for each other. It wasn't about putting that on for display. It was about the moment that you guys proclaim your love for each other, for the rest of your guys life in front of like us and whoever, whoever our little group was. But it wasn't about that. It was about you and her and that moment, and for me, that's what a wedding is about. That's what marriage isn't about. And it was so real, like it wasn't a show for me. I wasn't watching a big production, it was. I was watching Love Addicts Raw. It was genuine.
Speaker 1:You know it's really cool. I asked Shannon, I literally said do you want like a big ring and a big wedding or are you ready to get on house? And she said house. I said, okay, simple, it's very simple. We even did that when our children were one years old. I, we, we talked about that. We always make, we always um, here's a really, really cool thing. Um, I was actually speaking to frank about this today and I always talk to um my son, echo, at playing the highest level of soccer.
Speaker 1:It's always, and even life itself, it always comes down to decision making. That's it, decision making. What is the difference between a champion and everybody else? The champions make great decisions and when it's when something is wrong, they adjust, and they adjust quickly and they're resilient. So, when one thing I can say that I know I don't think, oh, you can hear my dog sorry, yeah, no worries. I know that. I know I don't think, oh, you can hear my dog sorry, yeah, no worries.
Speaker 1:My, I know that the most important thing, more than as far as the marriage, yeah, it's about being genuinely partners, like we all have this idea about marriage, but it's a lot of work Period, but the person you're getting married to has to be your partner, have to be. They have to add value and you have to add value to them. They have to add value to you or it's not going to last Period, because the first thing that goes is attraction, and physical. You know, you guys have to be like a team that constantly growing together. So me and Shannon we would do these things Like I would discuss with her like seriously and she would say house. I said, okay, I'll make a plan. We're going to own a house in one year and this is how we're going to do it. It was super cool and I literally would tell her, if you don't mind me sharing with you, yeah, no, I want to hear it.
Speaker 1:It was very simple. I said okay, so you're going to put this much, I'm going to go in, we're going to go make this much money and you're going to deposit this much in the bank every single week and let me get the bowl for my dog.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead so I would.
Speaker 1:I, we had a plan. You gotta have a plan. You gotta have a plan. If you don't have a plan, you plan to fail. It's the truth. So, and you gotta write it down. Don't be telling me oh yeah, I got one, where is it in my head, in your head, if you close your eyes, close your eyes when you, if you have something in your head and you see, see black, right, that's space. You know how big the universe is. Your idea is in space. It's everywhere and nowhere in particular. Okay, it's nowhere. You have to put it down on a sheet of paper, because now it's in physical earth. Okay, where we live. It makes sense. Okay, where we live. And then you have to get up in the morning. You have to read that goal, that plan, in the morning as soon as you get up. So, guess what, when you get up and you read that plan, you're gonna, your day is gonna be like about that plan. Your decision is gonna be made based upon your plan, like, oh, let's go do this, ron, I'm sorry I can't. I gotta do this because I know my plan, I know my goal. So, by having a plan, you know what you can and cannot do. Okay, I don't know way.
Speaker 1:Um steve jobs said he is just as uh as much as people praised him for, like the ipod, the iphone. It's the decisions that he decided not to do. That is the reason why he was able to create what he did, because there's a lot of distraction, you understand. There's so much coming up with good ideas, especially if you get to a certain level. Everybody has ideas, everybody wants your time, but it's being able to say no, I cannot do that. I'm sorry, I know you're hurt, but I cannot do that Because you're so focused on what you got to do. You cannot get done what you need to get done If you allow all the distraction. Yeah, so you got to have a plan and I got to admit. Shannon and I have been very good at coming up with a plan and sticking to it together together.
Speaker 2:Well, I feel I feel like uh with you guys too. Personally, you guys are the perfect yin yang your, your personalities balance each other out, and um sean can keep you in check too. Also, I think those two things are like the the biggest thing, and um she keeps me away yeah, exactly, but, um, you guys balance each other out perfect.
Speaker 2:She's more structured and stable. You're more in the moment, doing things on the fly at any given moment. So, as the circle goes, you guys balance, it's not off tilt, you know, I mean, and watching you guys parent is one of the biggest, um, hugest impressions that been it for me as a parent, because I see how you, you, you guys treat your kids and the the avenues of success that they're experiencing is because of the sacrifice you guys are doing and also because of how you guys are doing it and talking to your kids. And I got to see echo. I see him every now and then, but I got to see him recently and bro, they are, they are a perfect mixture of you and shannon.
Speaker 1:It's crazy to see I, I actually, you know, I act. I actually had this conversation with shannon because, um, as far as um, as far as uh, echo and uriah, they're both really, really driven. Uriah is more like me, where he's more confident and just self-motivated. He doesn't even need me, he just goes and makes plans, he's just like on fire and I watch him, I'm like wow, wow, like it just blows my mind. And then you get Echo, who is more silent, very he's confident, but very silent. He'll never compare himself to other people, he doesn't have to talk, whereas Uriah is very confident, he'll say things, you know, and it's kind of interesting and both super focused. And I asked Shannon, you think it's because of us, you know? I mean, 100% got to be, it has to be them, it has to be them, it has to be them. But I'm sure, by being raised by Shannon and I, it, it, it plays a role you know big time and the like.
Speaker 2:Talking to Uriah, especially the last couple of times, and I told him too, because he's all into volleyball and he's explaining to me, like the difference, how his life is changing because of it, and I took, I looked at him and said, oh, you, you found your passion.
Speaker 2:And he said, yeah, it took a while, but I did, I found my passion. And once he had the bullseye, now he can laser focus and, like you said, he's very confident and he has a plan, like he he's telling me like, oh, I'm looking at these colleges, I'm doing this with this website and I'm doing this so that and I was like brah, he just started playing volleyball like a couple years ago and he realized how good he was at it and now he found his passion for it and now he's creating his own avenues and paths to take his volleyball to the next level. But it reminded me a lot of you and that way he was strong about what his decisions were going to be. And that's just like how you are with anything I've known you to be about when you made a decision. This is what's going to happen.
Speaker 1:I mean it's very interesting, because the difference between Uriah and Echo and, by the way, brittany, you know Brittany, right, yeah, yeah, she in her own right is very like they all amaze me personally. But as far as what I was saying with Echo, echo would be like, from five years old it was only soccer. He never grew up as a normal child soccer. He never grew up as a normal child. Um, I, he, he would miss birthdays or he would skip going to the beach and he would just want to practice and he would just want to do that. So, very, very, very rare uriah, um he, you know, he, whatever he gets in, he kind of reminds me of me. Whatever he gets into, like if it's collecting sports cards, or when he was young he was into collecting dinosaurs, right, or fidgets, yeah, here's when he jumps around, he jumps around, which is totally perfect, which is just life. You know, you should encourage your kids to just do what they feel like doing. They don't have to be stuck to one thing. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's perfect, just the way it is. Just support them in whatever it is. Don't even have to be sports, could be spelling.
Speaker 2:Yep, trust me, bro, my daughter is all into anime. She's got a sword hanging up above her freaking room, she has all these books and then now she's like could care less about it and fortunately she or she was dancing. We used to take her and do all that stuff, but she never found her passion until just like Uriah was volleyball. And once she found that passion, everything changed. Bro, I've never seen my daughter like this. I knew she, she, she wanted something to be passionate about. She just never found it and once, like with uriah, found the target. Now she's just aiming at that target and doing whatever she can and it's cool to see and for me as a dad, I love to watch it. Like people ask me like oh, what do you like to do for fun? I watch my daughter play volleyball because I'm watching her do something that she loves, and that's what I love is to watch my, my kid, do something she loves. That's my, that's what I love to do.
Speaker 1:But back to that now that you brought that up back to that, like what you just said. But even they don't have to be like. For instance, I read I still remember when Brittany actually had a conversation with me and she said, dad, I'm not like you like and and I asked her. I asked her are you happy? She said yes. I said then, that's it. You don't have to be a goal getter. You want to be, you want to create whatever you think is ultra success. Success is you living a life that you happy, happy, you know. That's true. That's another thing that people emphasize so much on. You think you have to do something. You know Living. What do you do for living? I live.
Speaker 2:Yep, I live. But you got to admit both you and myself don't have normal lives. Like we don't do the nine to five our whole life and we never punch one time clock. Like we've not. Well, I guess in other people's eyes it's not normal. To us. It's normal you know what I mean? Like we're a different kind of success or a different kind of life living. We're not the cookie cutter. I'm going to go college, I'm going to go get a job, I'm going to raise a family and I'm going to go to work every day. We're not like that. And I think if you look at all our friends that we're close with, none of us are like that. It's kind of weird.
Speaker 1:Normal is different for everybody, everybody, yeah, yeah, what you think normal is yeah, yeah but. I feel.
Speaker 2:I feel like that's what connects us all. We're we're. We're just different, but the same. Where we're not, we're we're um, energy, yeah, and, and that energy attracted us to each other, like how the hell I started cruising with you, or frankie and peter, and like all of our friends, and we all are not normal in the eyes of other people, you know, I mean, we're not normal. We don't go nine to five, we don't do this Like we're always trying to do something. You know what I mean Like or leveling up or not, just a normal. Not saying it's bad or anything. I just feel like that energy attracted us to each other and that's why we're always around it, if that makes sense. Like like you and peter right, your guys energy attracted to each other at an early age and it's because you guys had that same kind of energy. Plus, you guys are dancing or whatever. But I feel like all of us are not the same and we're all attracted to our friends because we're all not the same and we're not like normal.
Speaker 1:Everybody is unique and, again, like I said, every normal is different for everybody. Yeah, it's a different. Everybody has a different reality. There's not one reality. People say, oh, come back to reality. But there's so many different realities. Everybody has a different reality and that's the one thing. As I'm getting older, I come to understand.
Speaker 1:When you watch this political climate that's happening right now, it's so hilarious that everybody is, that we all are different, and you know you might see something somewhere and somebody else sees something some somewhere else and accept it. You know we we different. We're not all the same and nor should we expect people to think exactly the way that we think. I mean, believe me, I did for the longest time and, uh, that's a, that's a appetite for destruction, because everybody can make in their own way. Yeah, and they can feel the way you want to feel and it's not our duty to try to convince them. You know, if you, if you, believe in a certain type of religion, good for you, you know. But if somebody else believes in a different type of religion, good for them. Who are we to try to convince them to believe our way? But we try to do that. Yeah, you know, as you get older, you realize that that's what makes the the universe. Amazing is that there's so many different flavors.
Speaker 2:You know I agree and I always think, like, okay, think about this. I don't know if you ever do, but if you were to rewind your life and look back and all those life experiences that you had, that's kind of like a less than a 1%. Like you were in a boy band group, that was huge. You started your own nightclub, you were part of a biggest nightclub promotion company. You had your own record label, you running a um, your roofing company. You're like the things you've done and accomplished isn't like what a lot of people like not many people had your life experiences. And I think about that with my own life, like I love the things that I've done and I'm proud of the things that I've done. And I realize like not many people can say they did what I did, not that I'm comparing myself to them, but it just makes me appreciate that my life isn't kind of like what the normal society's life is like, if that makes sense. You ever think about all the things you've done and be like Holy shit.
Speaker 1:I did a lot of crazy shit, but I'll say it then again you know, you know there's there's nothing wrong with that too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's nothing wrong with it yeah, um, you know, like some people, if you think about it, okay you go to work and you know, if you enjoy what you do and you can leave your, you can leave your uh job at work and then you can go home, you can maybe watch Netflix, you can maybe go do something Less stress. I will say that, yes, I did a whole bunch of stuff and I'm still doing. There's a lot of stress to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah definitely lot of stress to it, yeah, definitely. Yeah. Well, you know people. Other people may see um success in stature or whatever you want to say, but there's also a lot of stress to it and uh, so maybe that's successful to them. Just living a Stress free, yeah, and happy life. What's wrong with that? I always fight myself. I fight with myself about that all the time, like what if? I yeah, do this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know, like say you're gonna retire, like then what? You're gonna start something else bro?
Speaker 1:I think. I think the word retire is is, um, man-made like everything else. Everything's man-made like time. I'll throw you off. I'll tell you, I'll throw off it. There's no such thing as time. There's no such thing as time. Time is an instrument like a tape measure. You know like, you use a tape measure so you can measure that this frame is going to be 10 inches or 24 inches by 24 inches, and time is the same thing. There is no, that's just a man-made thing. So I can say, hey, thaddeus, meet me at five o'clock. But really, what is that? It's just the sun. The sun is always shining yeah okay.
Speaker 1:So the only reason why we don't see it is because the earth spins right, but that sun is still shining. It's the same day. That's why. That's why it's called the eternal moment. There is no time, it's just now. You just got now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right, and I definitely known you to live for now and that's something you definitely taught me and I learned a lot from you, like working with you back in the day with Artist Groove and just talking to you and watching you build your business and how you are with your family. I learned a lot from you and the positive energy you always have is is something I need to kind of keep more in my life. Like I've never seen you. Well, I seen you mad before, but I never seen you mad that long and you always find a way to put a positive spin on things and can.
Speaker 1:I can I share something about positive? Yeah, my friend, she's over there going crazy, but this might sound weird, but I think always thinking positive is fake. I do. Why is that? It's not real? Because you don't try to be positive, you know. I got to focus on this. It's fake. Positivity is an impulse, it comes from within. Like you don't try to think positive, you just are positive or you're not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's just what it is Like you don't try to think positive, you just are positive or you're not. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, that's just what it is. That's and the way and you, but you got to understand that you going to be negative, and nothing wrong with that, because how do you even know what positive is unless you know what negative is? How are you going to know what daytime is if you don't know what nighttime is? So trying you're going to know what daytime is if you don't know what nighttime is. So trying to think positive is not going to last, it's faith.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not gonna make sense. You wouldn't. You have to. You just couldn't be positive in your, in your action, and you're going to get times that you're gonna be negative and then you can it's. If you want to sit, do you want to sit in your shit and be negative? Up to you, go for it. And then, when it's time and you're done pouting and sitting in your shit, you just get up and you stop moving forward. That's how I always feel, because I do hear people all say, oh yeah, I think positive, this place is fake. That makes sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You, just you are. You're it or you're not See.
Speaker 2:that's the thing, bro. I don't know if you remember which kind of stuck with me forever. And when you first invited me to be part of Artist Group Network one day I asked you because I knew and I've seen it and I never asked you to be part of of your company. I seen a lot of people want to and I seen a lot of people like was trying to be part of it, but I never asked. And I I asked you one day and I said, brah, out of everybody that's been around these stupid clubs and trying to be part of your stuff, why did you pick me?
Speaker 2:And that's exactly what you said it's like because it just is, and that was that always stuck with me. It was like nothing I I could have said or told you to like hey, ronnie, I like be part of artist group network or whatever. Like. You picked me and I didn't understand why at first, because because I was just like fuck, I'm just whatever. And then you like, oh, because you're the right guy, it just is. And I was like well, that's that.
Speaker 1:But you just was the right guy. You know we, you know I got us, let's just have some fun. Then the problem with humanity is we think too much. We think too much. So I was listening to this book and it was so cool and it's right, and it was talking about how thoughts is so unlimited. And then when you start thinking about it, it starts limiting everything. And it's true Like let's just use this an example simple, because everybody thinks about it, right, if a kid plays a sport, you ask the kids who wants to be a professional? Everybody says me right. Yeah, who wants to be rich? Everybody says me. Until you figure out that you got to do all this work to be rich. Or you got to do all this work to be a professional, right, okay, so, but if you immediately think like, yeah, I want to be rich, it's so exciting that if you start thinking, oh, but I got to get up early, I got to meet plenty of people, I gotta do this, and then you start shying away from it. Yeah, it's the truth.
Speaker 1:Your thoughts, cause you know why. Your thoughts is exactly what I just told you. The thoughts is just what impulse? Just like, just being positive. You're not thinking about being positive, you just are, yeah, just being positive. You're not thinking about being positive, you just are, yeah. You're not thinking about. Um, when you have a thought, it's just energy and that thought is miraculous. You can have whatever thought, and then when you start to think about it, you ruin it yeah, it's so true.
Speaker 1:So you know, I think we think too much we do, that's true.
Speaker 2:That's what.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking. So I know everybody heard this, but hearing it and doing it. Okay, not trying to, but actually doing it. Yep, just imagine when you get you're sitting in a car, right, and you get, uh, uh, you sitting in a car, right, and you, you get the steering wheel and the steering wheel is turning the car right, right, right, but the steering wheel is. So the steering wheel is the brain. It's just a tool. Okay, it's just the tool. The brain is just the tool, just like the steering wheel. If I don't't turn the wheel, the wheel doesn't turn right, yeah, yeah. So the brain, you, the brain is not you.
Speaker 1:Everybody thinks that the brain is who we are, what we think. That's who I am. It's not the brain, is just everything you hear on social media and your parents since you was young, your teachers, everybody. That's all it is. It's just mimicking all those voices. And that's why they say you might not get it that the brain is actually the worst, worst leader, because it's not a leader, it's a servant. Yeah, it's like a tool, like the steering wheel. So who's in charge of the brain? Who's in charge of the steering wheel? Me, I'm turning right yeah, so it has to be that soul.
Speaker 1:So when you think again, let's go back to this. So if you think you got to think positive, it's fake because it's the brain, it's just the tool. It has to be the soul, the spontaneous you just are and you are by just being. You know my favorite word, my favorite word, what is that? Being B-E-I-N-G. It know my favorite word, my favorite word, what is that? Being B-E-I-N-G. It's my favorite word.
Speaker 2:That makes sense, bro. And okay, what could you do to change your soul? Like say, if you want to be, you're going to change your soul. So you're fucked if you're a negative soul.
Speaker 1:There's no such thing as a negative soul. There's no such thing as a negative soul, see. That's why people always think like oh, you know, god is not separate from you ever, because if God was separate from you, you wouldn't be alive. That makes sense. The only reason why people are negative is because you know what their brain Another word for sin is. What is that? Lack of love, okay, just lack of love. So it's just because you have lack of love or you're not born evil. Babies is not evil. Yeah, we get that through our environment, we get that taught by watching. But inherently, your soul is good. That's why you have to think to be positive.
Speaker 2:You just are okay, that makes sense. I feel you I did like, like what you brought up is like if you want to be successful, you got to put in the work. If you want to be rich, like you said, it's exciting to say, but when you realize you got to do the work, then that excitement kind of fades. And I used to tell that to my students and I tell this to my daughter every single week, bro. I said everybody like being champion until it's time to do champion, shit. Everybody wants to be the best, wants to do this, this and this until it's time to do the work, to get there.
Speaker 2:And that's where people fall off, that's where where the divide is and I guess so People have it. And I can sense that from certain kids watching my daughter then play volleyball or watching students I had compete Some kids for certain things, they're just it, they just have that it and some don't for that particular thing. You know what I mean. But I guess that is their soul, it's not, they're not choosing to not have it, you know I mean well, that's just that's just some people have a certain talent now, if but the the person can work hard at it and become very that's what I meant.
Speaker 2:that's what that's what I meant that work ethic and just use it all because it's lazy.
Speaker 1:So that's what's so awesome. That's why it's so awesome. There's nothing that is just set like just because you're talented, you know so many talented people fall out. So much talented people could have been so successful, like my oldest brother, anthony. Okay, to me he's the most talented person. For what? Talent for what?
Speaker 2:Yep, I agree.
Speaker 1:It's, it's. You gotta put in, you gotta put in the effort, yep, and you gotta be and you gotta be. You know, being successful is not sexy, it's consistent. And being consistent is not what people want to hear. Who the heck wants to be consistent Like, for instance, this is the best one, this is the best one. Everybody can have a good body. Okay, everybody can. It's what we eat, but're lazy, we're lazy. I literally had a doctor asked me oh, but what do you get me when you go to mcdonald's? Because she's asking me about my diet and I said I don't eat at mcdonald's. Yeah, you can never, eat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's just about being disciplined. But who wants to be disciplined? They literally asked me oh, but what about when you go to eat this place? What about good? I said what about it? I just tell them this is what I want to eat. You just have to be disciplined. Yep, if you got the discipline to eat good, then what do you get the discipline for? Because junk food is cheap, okay, but junk food is everywhere, okay. You're just lazy. You just don't choose to eat good food. You're just lazy, that's it.
Speaker 2:I agree, and I think that's one of the reasons why I did the Spartan race and to also start this diet, because I feel like I haven't tested my discipline as much as I like to. I want to try and test it again because it's something I always had. I always had discipline, especially when I was competing, and I always had. I always had discipline, especially when I was competing, and always had that work ethic, but I never had something to choose to be, to choose to make myself disciplined for, and doing this is kind of exciting for me.
Speaker 1:But on the defense for people who choose not to be disciplined and eat, right. Who cares If they don't want to? And they right? Who cares if they're the, if they don't want to and they want to eat whatever they want to eat, because they always say that too. Oh yeah, but I want to be happy, then do it. Do whatever you feel like you want to do. There is no certain way. If I choose to be disciplined and I choose to eat a certain way, that's, that's me. If you don't, hey, awesome, because you can do whatever you like?
Speaker 2:Yep, that's true. I know. What I wanted to tell you and it was something we recently shared together was I wanted to thank you for, when we were watching Alika's team and his son play soccer, for you to explain half of the stuff that was going on, because we recently got to watch soccer.
Speaker 1:You guys were the funnest to watch a game with you guys. I want to watch more games with you guys. You guys made it more fun.
Speaker 2:I had a blast. I just was so confused with a lot of this. I cannot believe they went and stop the game and then the ref would put the ball like 10 feet in front of the goal and say, okay, go kick them. I was like how the hell can that be part of the game? Like who? Like that's not even skill bro.
Speaker 1:No, it's exactly like playing basketball If you're going up for the shot and they follow you, then you go to the free throw line and you shoot two free shots.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that was when they're playing, when they're scoring points. Every other second Soccer, you can go to the whole half time and they may score one goal.
Speaker 1:No, a very this agent from Germany. He explained it to me and it's so cool and America just doesn't get it. He says it it's very cool, it's true. He said what people in America need to understand is that football, which America calls it soccer, it's a very low scoring game. Why do you think when they score, they all go nuts? Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:We would yeah.
Speaker 1:So it's a low-scoring game. You can dominate possession pretty much. The game is 90 minutes, right For like 89 minutes, and in the 90th minute they can take the ball and score and you lose the game.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It can happen. That's what they don't understand, and it's a player's game. It's a player's game. It's not like American football, where you get the coaches up watching the defense and making calling plays and they're dictating how everything goes. Yeah, in soccer, the coaches can only give you the formation and the players is making split second decisions. Back to decisions. We talked about it. Yeah, decision making is in, in, in the highest levels, and even in I'm not talking about just sports in life, it's all decision making. You know what person you decide to get married to? Okay, yeah, that's a big one.
Speaker 2:So yeah, it's the second time I'm doing it.
Speaker 1:It's huge. It's huge and decision-making in everything you know Decision-making is. I think they should stress that in school more than anything, Our life is compromised of all decision making. Your decision that you make going to bring you the type of experience that you're going to have. You're going to have a bad experience because you had a bad, you made a bad decision, or you're going to have a great experience because you made a hard decision that turned out great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, simple decisions might turn out horrible, so it's decision making, everything is decision making well with soccer.
Speaker 2:I can see that a lot more too because life, yeah, it's, decision it's this you're making in life.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I get that, but like I'm talking about soccer Because I haven't I mean, I played soccer when I was a little kid. It wasn't like that at that level. And because your son plays at such a higher level, it was cool for you to be with us to break down the game. Of course, our little little crew was over there like doing our thing and making it weird and it's just, we didn't know the game as well as you did. So I was thankful that you watched it with us so that you could break it down and you were truthful about it.
Speaker 2:It's like, oh, if this happens, I gained power. If that guy does this, they gain power. I'm like, oh, you're not good, like you're just being real. And it was uh cool to to know that you were so knowledgeable of the game and why you're so knowledgeable the game because of your son. And like, what is? He's not even where, what is he even doing? Like he's on like some kind of professional development for soccer. Like what, what is he? He's, in the main, living in a mainland to be groomed to get to the next level in soccer when he.
Speaker 2:I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 1:That's cute that you ask it's because it's true, like if I mean, if I wasn't living? How to explain it? That's cute that you ask Because it's true, like if I mean, if I wasn't living it, what the heck right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you would in a bit, yeah Me. And you never watched soccer before our kids was born. I tell you that.
Speaker 1:American football doesn't have it. So it's all. Basically, soccer is football, it's really football, okay, because it's the largest sport in the entire world by far, by far, yep. So we are now in America, kind of following the European way. So you know, you get Chelsea, you get Liverpool, that's like New England Patriots, and you know the biggest team, right. But in European football you have your professional teams, have what is called an academy, where they recruit kids, like top level kids, into the academy and they groom them to be professionals. So you know they're, they're that's like a whole nother level. Um, so that's what, what he's doing, he's basically at.
Speaker 1:You know, you heard of mls, the major league soccer, yeah yeah so there's, like la Galaxy, you know, los Angeles Football Club, inter Miami, with Lionel Messi. So he's signed to Houston Dynamo and he's in their academy. So he's signed to Houston Dynamo, in Houston, texas, and he's basically training to be a pro. That's crazy, crazy.
Speaker 2:So when he gets of age then that team can sign him to the major league team. They get first rights. They don't have a draft or anything like that.
Speaker 1:No, no. So actually you can be given a pro contract at 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20.
Speaker 2:As young as 14 yeah, wow, and you can play on like the major league team yes, they call it a homegrown.
Speaker 1:So basically you're in the academy and it's kind of like um man, I can't explain it. It's so crazy. You basically you go to you, you play on this team, um, you don't pay. You know how people pay for being yeah yeah so you don't pay anything.
Speaker 1:Um, okay, they, they get provided the uniforms, the cleats, they travel with the team. So mom and dad don't even travel with them. Um, they stay in the hotel with the team, they fly on the airplane with the team and they're basically living like, like as little pros and they're. But they gotta also. They also gotta develop and if not, they can get cut. So there's a lot of pressure too. There's a lot of pressure, you know, and yeah, it's just like anything how is your son handled?
Speaker 2:a pressure like he does it get to him, or it's just he's like, he's just not even.
Speaker 1:He's just on that level where this is what I'm what I'm doing I think that it's about this is what I'm doing like he's very um, he doesn't really talk a lot. Yeah, yeah, he doesn't really talk a lot. And as far as pressure, um, he, he just puts it into his practice, he just practices a lot. Yeah, that's pretty interesting, it's. It's definitely, it's definitely interesting, you know, coming from hawaii, being all the way in houston, texas, and he doesn't miss um. I ask him all the time if he wants to come home and he always tells me no.
Speaker 2:He's living his dream already.
Speaker 1:He is living his dream, yeah, 100%. And you know, I tell him too, yeah, I think it's important for us as parents and for ourselves. Is you set a goal? Okay, this is. You set a goal? Okay, here's a, here's a, here's a. This is a gem, radio, this, whoever wants to take this, this is a big gem, this is worth a lot.
Speaker 1:You set a goal, okay, to be a professional athlete or to be very successful, whatever the case may be. Whatever you decide you want to do, and that's just the goal. What we do is we feel that we have to accomplish this goal in order to be happy. Wrong, wrong, the goal is just the direction. Like saying, let's go to Kaneohe, yeah, the true gem, the true value of life is us jumping in the car together and having fun driving to Kaneohe. The journey, driving together, the journey, yeah, yeah, joking, stopping to get something to eat, stop to go to the beach, laugh, play a fight, whatever the case, right, that's the reward. The reward is life, the living that makes sense. The goal is just the direction. That makes sense is just the direction. But we think, because the society, that the goal is the reward and if we don't get that goal, we like, we, we don't want to live, we, we go into drugs or we become depressed, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's important for us. I always going to say this you cannot expect your kid to be a champion unless you're a champion, period. Yeah, I see people, no offense, people might get mad, but let themselves go beyond overweight and yelling at their kids to be like all that right, like you. Let your kid be a champion. You should be a champion. Yeah, that's how I feel. That's how I feel nobody has to agree with it.
Speaker 2:That makes sense, I get a question by example. Yep, I always believe in that. Leave by example.
Speaker 1:So if you can teach your kids from an early age, I'm telling you, you can save them from depression. So I always share with Echo and Uriah that the goal is just the direction. Okay, that's all it is. The reward is the opportunity to move in that direction. You know the fact that he's from Hawaii. He moved to Arizona when he was 11. And now he's 14. He's playing at Houston Dynamo. You know who Brian Ching is, from Kamehameha High School. Yeah, yeah, he's a Houston Dynamo legend. He's from Hawaii.
Speaker 1:That's Aliga's teammate, yeah yes, yes, and he's still in in houston. But the goal is just the direction. It's important for us and for us to teach our kids that the reward is the daily grind. The daily grind is our reward, that's us living, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:It's the I I wanted to ask.
Speaker 1:And that's how you come, and that's how you be happy because, look, we're gonna be living in our mind again. You, you, you, you want to be a pro, but you're not there yet, so you're not happy. You see, you're thinking, you're thinking. But if you just in the doing, like I'm gonna get up, I'm gonna practice, and we're not not practicing, I'm gonna eat good and then I'm gonna practice again and you, you, in that doing, you're gonna be good because you're not thinking.
Speaker 2:And you'll be happy. I want to ask you when you're watching your son play soccer as a dad, how are you on the sidelines? You lose it. You freaking, screaming, or you just quietly cheering him on? How are you?
Speaker 1:That is a great question for you. I don't know if you're thinking the same thing. It's a learning process. Okay, yeah, it's a learning process and of course, we like to, we expect them, but at the same point, I never played the game, yeah, and I don't even know how to. So I think it's important that it's more we can now. We just watch, we don't need anything, and we can always, like ask questions or, you know, the only thing that I can, I truly can share with my son, because he's so much beyond me I mean as an athlete, as a as intelligent too, yeah is is giving your 100, right, like, yeah, that's all, as far as everything else, like that's beyond me. So all we can share is about, you know, giving you 100.
Speaker 1:But that's awesome, but another, the same point you got to remember. Now, the game that he played is not like baseball football, where they did the offense, come in the defense, sit down. Yeah, yeah, soccer, soccer.
Speaker 2:They run miles in one day, oh yeah, all day they're constantly moving.
Speaker 1:So you get us parents out there yelling at our kids like come on, go there, go there yourself and run. Okay, Tell me you're gonna run 100% all the time. And like running 100% is dumb all the time too. You know, like you got to be smart so you start to learn. I think the best thing that we can do as parents is learn and watch and support our kids, Because parents yelling at the kids make the kids not enjoy the game. Yeah, Especially because we don't even know, unless you play it at a very high level yourself, what we yelling yep might be completely opposite from what the coach told you to do yeah, right, so funny, bro.
Speaker 2:I always tell that to my daughter. I say you lucky, I don't know how to play volleyball. You, you, lucky. This wasn't my sport, because then I would try to be more involved and more I'd probably be coaching. You know what I mean. I said it's lucky you picked a sport that I have no clue about it. The ball don't hit the ground, that's all I know. Keep the ball from hitting the ground on your side. Put the ball on the ground on that side. Other than that, but like you said, I can direct her in the work ethic because that doesn't change right.
Speaker 2:But I, I, you know me, I get riled up, bro, especially like if the ref doesn't bad call or something I cannot. But I've learned to positively support versus, like what you doing, do that like, oh, don't Get it back. Next one you know what I mean. Like it becomes different and I see the competitiveness that my daughter has is the same mindset that I have. And we both noticed Alika's son.
Speaker 2:When Alika's son lost in the championship game, he sat down in the middle of the field. He knew nobody around him, he was upset and he wanted for dig out. You know like, get his lays. You never like talk to anybody and I was thinking to myself like bro, that's the same shit I would have done. And you said it. You're like bro, that's good. That means it mattered to him. If you say I'll be the same way, like he cared, yeah, yeah, and he's feeling it, bro, I like that, that fact that you feel that you feel the hurt, you feel the happiness, but you also feel the hurt because that's what's going to teach you, but to be so like it mattered, like it matters so much to that kid at the same point.
Speaker 1:They won uh, speaking of that kid but at the same point they won. Speaking of Alika-san, they won the OIA tournament. They won that. They may have lost the state, but it's important again for our kids to understand winning and losing yes.
Speaker 2:That's what I keep telling some of the parents you got to win and you got to lose, yes, and it's cool to not be okay with losing Fuck that. I don't like that theory. Oh, it's how you play the game, fuck all that. It matters to you that much that losing hurts. That means you're passionate about that and it's supposed to hurt. I don't like losing. I never did, did. I don't like even losing to my daughter playing freaking friends trivia. I ain't gonna like it's just to to have that in today's society where it's okay which which I don't agree with. I mean you can take the loss, learn from it, feel it and get better from it, but don't be like, okay, we lost, it's all right. No, you got to feel that hurt because that's what changes you, that's what makes you a better person, stronger player. Everything that hurt is when you feel it. You have to feel that Grow. Yep, that's how you grow. Exactly that's how you grow. That's how you grow. And it was so funny.
Speaker 2:I was thinking watching the kid walk out there and not want his lays and the model being like I gotta get him. I was thinking like bro, I would be the same way. I fuck all these lays, I don't care about anybody who's here to see, like you know. I mean like we just lost the championship game. And then you're like, yeah, I'll be the same way, I don't, like I wouldn't want to get laid. And you said exactly what I was thinking and I was like, wow, that's I'm glad you said.
Speaker 2:And I told Alika. I was like, bro, that is the mindset you showed your kid, like that. It matters that much. You're not doing this for just to be on the field and playing soccer. You're doing this for win on championship and when you didn't, it gotta hurt and you gotta grow from it. But you don't have to be cool with losing bro. I've never agreed with that. You don't need to be a sore loser and be a little fucking asshole, but, like you, you don't have to be cool with losing bro. I never agree with that. I'm the source loser, I know that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why I don't do it often. You know what I mean. I don't lose often.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uriah gets so mad, Exactly.
Speaker 2:The same thing, bro. When he wins, bro wins. It is glorious too.
Speaker 1:I see him win. I want him to win, just so that the car ride home is much better.
Speaker 2:It's that same. I hate trying to Give him the life lesson Speech after let's go get ice cream.
Speaker 1:That's so funny. It's very interesting when you stand next to your kids and they're much bigger than you are.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I ain't gonna be bigger than me it's an interesting feeling, yeah, but watching, watching uriah play volleyball, I was like every chance I get I'm going to watch him. It's the same tournament, because I love his energy and he's passionate about it and his will to win is like that's all he's trying to do. He fires up his whole team. That's what I was going to say. He's a leader, bro. He fires up his team. And same like Aria, they try to get every single person to that level and when they're not at that level, they're pushing them to get there. And it's, it's cool to see bro, and it was like that one tournament when we seen you guys and I got to watch him play, and you got to watch aria play, and you got we got to take pictures, and for me it was a um, full circle moment, like aria was born a few months before we're getting old and our kids are getting big.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, because, bro, yeah, watch, like that picture with uriah and aria was was just weird, because we have pictures of them when they were like not even one you know it is and they're like athletes and doing shit and in high school and it's like circle of life and it feels like a blink of an eye.
Speaker 1:Didn't seem that long ago because what did I just tell you? There's no such thing as time people get to wrap their head around it. It's no such thing as time People can't wrap their head around it. It's the same day that you were born. It's the same day.
Speaker 1:It's one big eternal moment, because you know why. I was listening to this another. You guys ever, you ever, heard of a guy named Alan Watts? I never. I would encourage you to go onto YouTube, look up Alan Watts, put in your headset, and just listen to him speak as you fall asleep. Amazing, amazing. But time is not a straight line. That's why it's all layers on top of each other. It's all happening at the same time. Okay, we, we, we, but we were thinking in a straight line. That's why it's all layers on top of each other. It's all happening at the same time. Okay, we, we, but we're thinking in a straight line. It's all happening at the same time.
Speaker 2:There's no, because there's moments somewhere else on this planet that's in the same moment as us, but it's totally different. Yeah, it's phenomenal. Well, man, we've been going for over an hour and this episode could probably be a five hour long conversation that I'll have with you and um, I just wanted to talk story with you, brah. I didn't have no agenda, like fucking. I didn't have no um set format of what I wanted to talk to you about. I just wanted to talk to you and I feel like I draw a lot of inspiration from my friends and people that are close to me and I feel like you influence my life in so many different ways just from our conversations and by the person you are and the actions you show in life.
Speaker 1:No, you just just because you show in life, no, just because you know I was a bad drunk and I was able to bounce back from that.
Speaker 2:Bruh, you're one of the few people that I know that could do that, though, but even prior to that, I told you this Dad, and this is the truth.
Speaker 1:I want to say this to you. So my whole life I've been like always wanting to do more and do more and do more. And at that time I said I don't want to do anything, I just like party and have a great time and be a loser and not worry about any responsibilities, don't even pay any bills, and just be a loser. That has fun. I chose it, I chose it and I did it. And at a and then and at a certain point, I said being a loser is kind of boring. Yeah, it's time. It's time. You know, I did it, it was what it was, but it's kind of boring and it's time for me to get busy and I just Snap out of it.
Speaker 2:You did. It was a light switch. It was cool to see. It wasn't like it was hard to describe Because you always was that same energy, and then you just had like a dark cloud around it and you just got rid of the cloud. And a lot of people can't.
Speaker 1:And you was pretty wild, right, you was pretty wild yeah.
Speaker 2:You was pretty wild and a lot had to do with your relationship with Shan starting to grow and you just wanted to be better. And I was front row seats, bro. I seen boat and I seen the switch and I seen yeah, I seen you at your worst and I've seen you at your best. I remember Frankie had to hide the alcohol from his closet. Bro, we just gave him some of the drink. It was after the BJ Penn fight, I remember. And, bro, to where you are now, a lot of people don't have that mental strength to, like you said, snap out of it.
Speaker 1:It took me a while to understand that and be empathetic to that. It really did, and that's what makes me be more aware that not everybody, I don't know if they don't have it but I can't say, see, I can't say it's a decision that you have to make. The one thing that I tell my kids is don't tell me, I'm trying. I hate that word. That's bullshit. You're either going to do or you're not going. That word, that's bullshit. Yeah, you either gonna do or you're not gonna do. Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2:Yoda Trying to find an excuse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you either gonna do something or you're not gonna do them. Yeah, and it's gonna be easier if you just say you know what I'm lazy, I don't like doing, okay, cool, instead of pretending and being all sad and being the victim Because it takes a lot of energy to do something. It does, and again, you can. It doesn't make you're not better than anybody if you rise to the occasion and if you don't rise to the occasion, you're not, you're not.
Speaker 2:There's no. You're better. You be better for your own self, your own self.
Speaker 1:It's better for us to not judge other people, and just you know.
Speaker 2:I never did judge you. I was shocked by you many times I was like oh fuck, but like I said you had that you gotta be a loser. I was like oh fuck, but Like I said you had that you gotta be a loser.
Speaker 1:You gotta be a loser so you can understand what it is to be a champion.
Speaker 2:Oh, great Cause I was a loser a couple times. I fucking what is it to be Old and wise? You gotta be young and crazy. So we, you got to be young and crazy, so we handled the young and crazy. Now we can bask in the old and wise portion of our life.
Speaker 1:You know the saying young, dumb and full of cum.
Speaker 2:Yup, and we was that and we had the, we had the, we had the opportunity to have some fun. But I think, watching you through all of that and through everything, bro, you're somebody I always look up to and somebody that um conversations matter and like today, just what you were talking today, like when I edit this there I'm gonna write, be writing stuff down, because I already know how I can implement a lot of those things into my life and that's why I wanted to have this conversation with you. We don't to worry about your phone ringing or like people calling or like I get text messages or all that. It was a one-on-one, uninterrupted conversation with you. That, for me, couldn't matter. And, honestly, like what if our kids watch this video when we're gone and can hear you talking about what we just talked about, like it could help change them and they can hear their parents talking and they can hear their parents mindset and that's one of the reasons why I even do this podcast.
Speaker 1:Because of that and brah yeah, you know what's your idea.
Speaker 2:You're gonna have a lot of stuff for your daughter to watch Yep and she'll get to know her dad, not as a dad, but as someone having conversations with other people.
Speaker 1:Yep, well, I wanted to do, I wanted to, but I didn't. I didn't act on it and I'm not showing. But I always thought about doing a segment called the Right Advice from Mr Yaron.
Speaker 2:Do it bro.
Speaker 1:Nah, you know, we'll see. Right now I'm kind of in that phase, like you know. You got to admit you're totally enjoying watching Aria. Yeah, oh, big time. Yeah, yeah, me too. I just it's like I'm out of that stage. You know when we, you, we're growing into that next phase of our lives. Um, frank says it best, we're on the back nine. You know when you go.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, we're definitely on the back.
Speaker 1:Nine it's not a bad thing, like you said. No, you said you want to be young. I've embraced that, that I'm older now and I get to watch my kids and I, I, I'm enjoying that. I'm enjoying that I am I totally agree.
Speaker 2:I just had someone ask me a couple days ago and he does jujitsu and he said hey, dad, you should come do jujitsu. And I told him you know what I? I know how I am and I know how selfish I get when I get into something like that and get passionate about it. And right now in my life, it's not about that. It's about me helping my daughter get her passion and supporting her and giving her opportunities.
Speaker 1:Not anything. For me Sounds like you're making some good decisions. Yeah, just talked about that, about how he would have never been able to make the iphone if he took the wrong projects. Yeah, smart, because if you get so into something, you might be missing that of aria and we and we only have a couple more years left.
Speaker 2:Yes, I was just thinking about that too. I was like, oh, a couple more years Aria going to be in college and she already told me from at an early age that she like go mainland for college.
Speaker 1:So in three years she's not going to be home every day, but you see how important that is, I think if there's anything from this segment that, like for me, that I would love to pass to aria or my or my, my sons, um is that decision making is so important, like it is the. It's so important and, and, and also about not trying to be positive. Not trying to, I mean, think positive, but you just are, and when you're down you're not positive, you're down, it's all good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just be. You got to have the balance. Yeah, just be. I love you, man, and I appreciate you, bro. I appreciate you for taking time out and I appreciate you for seeing something in me all the way back then and also for being my friend, bro, because you're amazing. So are you man? Love you, brother. Love you, thad Shaka's for the cameras. Love you, brother, love you, thad Shaka's for the cameras. We're out and shout out to the Artist Group Network Aloha, aloha you.
