Above the bridge
Above the bridge
Episode 146 KALEO TEXEIRA ( owner, The Foundation Raw Hawaii )
Dog owners, prepare to have your perception of pet nutrition completely transformed. In this eye-opening conversation with Kaleo Teixeira, of The Foundation Raw Hawaii, we dive deep into the world of raw dog food and discover why what goes into your dog's bowl matters more than you might think.
Kaleo shares the alarming reality about commercial dog food - how it originated as a convenient but nutritionally questionable option, and why its processing methods strip away vital nutrients while adding potentially harmful preservatives. Through a powerful demonstration that shows how commercial dog food dramatically expands in a dog's stomach, he illustrates why so many pets suffer from digestive issues and allergies.
The contrast becomes clear as Kaleo breaks down the composition of raw dog food: an 80-10-10 formula of muscle meat, secreting organs, and bone that delivers complete, species-appropriate nutrition. His passion for canine health shines through as he explains how raw feeding supports everything from gut health to dental hygiene, coat quality, and overall longevity. With a 14-year-old dog that still runs energetically around his yard, Kaleo offers living proof of raw nutrition's benefits.
What makes this conversation particularly valuable is Kaleo's practical approach. He offers realistic transition strategies for pet owners curious about raw feeding, addresses common concerns about bacteria and bone safety, and provides insights into portion control and feeding schedules that work for dogs of all ages. His "technique" offers an accessible entry point for anyone interested in improving their dog's diet without an immediate complete overhaul.
Ready to transform your dog's health through better nutrition? Follow @iFeedRawHawaii on Instagram or visit their website to learn more about Foundation Raw Food products and the growing community of pet parents committed to species-appropriate feeding. Your dog's body is designed to thrive on real food - discover the difference raw nutrition can make.
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Speaker 1:What's up, brother, ted, how you doing, brother.
Speaker 2:Great bro, it's super cool to have you back on. I touched a little bit when you were on the show last time about your raw dog food and I wanted to do a deep dive in what you got going on. It's kind of nuts, because I watched the video you did with the kibbles and bits and you pour water inside and it just expanded and you're explaining to the people on your social media how much that would expand in your dog's stomach is pretty eye opening. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, exactly Exactly. And I mean the dog, for us, us, everything is about gut health. It's like us humans, um, with the dog stuff it's really aligned. Our systems is kind of the same, um. But I mean, we're herbivores and carnivores, they're strictly carnivores, um, so their system differs as far as the belly goes, but same. You get the good bacteria versus the bad bacteria and they all got to live coincide simultaneously and harmoniously. So we try to make sure that they do that, and by doing that, the raw food is the one that's the way to go.
Speaker 2:That's nuts, because like Kibble is like Branded as one of the best Out on the market. Commercial wise.
Speaker 1:Right, right, yeah, so the kibble, that's right. It's a long history kibble been out so long. And um, basically I'll give you the short end of the history that came out in like, say, the 1800s. Um Came out with one wheat flour Biscuit. Basically it came out with wheat flour, one wheat flour biscuit. Basically they came out with wheat flour, some, yeah, beets and blood and shucks I cannot think of it right now, but yeah, so they came out with.
Speaker 1:He came out with it and basically it evolved into kibble. And what they was doing at that time? Well, it was bringing out like horse meat for at that time, well, he was bringing out um like horse meat for at that time with the raw, I mean with the wet food. So while he was making kind of like on kibble, they came out with some wet food, um, and basically was horse meat. And at that time um world war ii basically came along and they they took away tin cans. So the tin cans shortage made them go to bags of dog food instead of um the tin can. And that made the kibble industry get to the next level with the high pressurizing um kibble and that's basically used from um, um, what do you call that rendered proteins. And rendered proteins is basically just powdered, um powdered. They took the, they take the meat and they take the? Um, the unedible part of the meat, that and they take that and they turn that into powder and that's basically how they make the kibble, the protein from the kibble.
Speaker 2:It's made from that, yeah, yeah, so the processing comes from it is is not the best way one thing I noticed about having these conversations with you is how educated you are in the whole thing, bro. You do you go in deep, bro you, you learn about this stuff, uh yeah, yeah, and there's a lot of people with the education.
Speaker 1:But I mean the good thing about the internet right now there's a lot of education out there to to learn and um, to grow from it. And one thing is good is the the dog breeding industry kind of grew to where everybody can kind of learn from each other, learn and grow um. So yeah, but there's a few right now the raw industry is is very, very new, um, it's old but it's new to a lot of the um, some of the people understanding because the vets, a lot of the vets, they're not behind the raw movement. So, um, we got that kind of like that counterbalance versus the the vets, a lot of the vets, they're not behind the raw movement. So, um, we got that kind of like that counterbalance versus the the vets versus, I guess, the um, the raw movement.
Speaker 1:It kind of yeah, it's a hard because we don't want to go against the vets and say, oh, the vets don't know what they're talking about, but vets are not nutritionists, um, and they doesn't. They don't have that nutritional um background that actual nutritionists would have to say, yeah, not good for your dog and why. All they can say is the bacteria that's put into you is not good for it, but, like I said, we come to that by feeding other stuff like pumpkin, raw pumpkin, that's a natural, it helps for warming and, yeah, so it's a natural dewormer and stuff like that, so it helps. So there's a lot of stuff that we can add to it as far as fruits and vegetables, fiber and all that to help wash out whatever bad bacteria that you think is there. That's nuts.
Speaker 2:And, like you said, bruh, vets they're not just like doctors. Vets get kicked back. They endorse pedigree or put that and you know they make you money off of that. They're not going to endorse something like that. Hill Science Diet is the number one, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so since you brought it up, hill Science Diet is the number one and Hill Science, the Hills family. They do have one to become a vet vet, you do have one, um, I think it's one semester that you do have to take or one class that you have to take for for nutrition, and hill science family is the ones that back that class. So, yeah, there's a monopoly. I don't know I'm not in the room like that, but from the outside in, I mean, there is a? Um, I don't believe in coincidence like that.
Speaker 2:So yeah, me neither, and yeah doctors are the same bruh well you go.
Speaker 1:That's why there's different this in in the, in the doctor world, in our doctor world, in the human, there's specialty doctors.
Speaker 1:The hard part with the with the vet world there's not specialty doctors, there's only there's doctors that does surgeries and do other internal stuff, but there's nobody that specializes on one thing Other than there is usually like, see a nose, throat and eye doctor.
Speaker 1:You get eye doctors out there that does that, even for dogs, but not really a nutritionist doctor where you can go and just, oh, they're going to speak to you about nutrition and what's best for your dog. So I think, with the raw movement and all that, I think it's going to bring out a lot of different conversations, at least, um, and it's going to put a lot of different stuff on the table that to people to really look at and say, wait, wait a minute. Um, it is making a difference and, like I said, I speak from experience. I've been feeding my dogs raw for over 20 years, um, so I'm not just talking for the last three years, it's been over time and I got a 14 year old girl in the yard right now that runs around all day in the yard to show for it yeah, so.
Speaker 2:So what made you switch and and what got you prompted to be like, oh shoot, I gotta try and give my dog this kind of food, versus like the store.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's a long time ago when we was kids is just trying to get that little better edge from the dogs. Um, there wasn't nothing really supplemental or anything like that that we could. Um, change our dogs look other than just straight dna I mean not dna but the straight blood lines, basically. So you have the dogs looking all the same. It's like, okay, how can we switch up our dogs? And, um, you know, just kind of going through, I didn't even know how it really started, but I started feeding them raw chicken.
Speaker 1:Um, I think I started reading about the marrow more it came from the marrow and and in the chicken bone, more and um, there's a big um, there's a big myth that dogs cannot eat bones. Dogs can eat bones but they cannot do, they cannot eat cooked bones because the cooked bones become splintered bones and it becomes shardy and it starts breaking down differently until it doesn't. And with this, with the chicken bone, it's a lot more softer. You can, when you go to one chopping knife, you can chop up basically on chicken bone a lot easier and it's going to act a lot different to when you're cooking it.
Speaker 1:Um, so that's basically how I started feeding chicken um, but then, as we evolve, I learned that foul is one of the highest um um, with allergies that come along with it, and it's because of all the stuff that they pump into them the carbs and all that whatever extra stuff. I don't know what they put. Like I said, I don't ever want to speak on what they put in there because I'm not there. You can read them up, but I know they put foreign stuff in there for preserve the chicken, so you can put it in and be edible for us, because our stomachs are keen to what they feed us.
Speaker 1:It's not keen to what we we eat. We're not supposed to be eating that kind of oh yeah, meaning back in the day we farm to table. Like a lot of people you farm to table, they cannot really eat the processed food like we eat.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah and vice versa like next to a kosher family. I was kosher and I learned a big. Then that was a big thing. I learned about kosher meals and like they don't let nothing touch each other. They don't let proteins touch each other. They don't let nothing touch um our food at all, any processed food at all. Barbecue needs to come on barbecue to my house and bring their own barbecue. So they don't want to even touch my barbecue.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's because of our food is so processed that it's not good for us that's true, bro, and I kind of stopped eating fast food and then once in a while I'll eat a fast food something, and whole brother that night is rough, because I could just be getting older a little bit of both, I would suspect.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean chalk it A little bit of both. I would suspect I mean chalk it up to a little bit of both, right, because you know everyone says a hundred percent, but a little bit of both. But even with the, with that McDonald's, I mean I used to always think, oh, the guy used the bathroom four times a day, he's got a good system. But then I realized no, it's what you're eating does not, is not? Your body is not absorbing it because there's no nutritional value. So it's just coming in and going out. Yeah, so now I started paying. That's why I said my, my brother was wonderful, he'd eat. I used the bathroom, like okay, so I started really paying attention to that kind of stuff. He's like, wait then look what you eat. Or you eat mcdonald's and it's like, hey, do you ever try eat one vegetable, see if they even work differently? Like I ain't eating that. Well, it tells you why your system is being like that. But I was always like, again, you're knocking them out but you're not absorbing nothing, nothing nutritional.
Speaker 2:So where's the value in all that food, huh yeah yeah, I just recently started, about a month already, kind of after I talked to you guys, I started a carnivore diet. Talk to you guys, I started a carnivore diet. Yeah, bro, I went from 161. I weighed myself this morning, I was 145. Like nice, bro, it's a trip. I feel healthy, I feel young, I can see my abs again.
Speaker 2:I was like yeah we're gonna fight pretty soon, but just diet matters, bro, and I feel like my skin feels cleaner and all that and it matters. I don't know how long I stay on. It was a trial for something I'm doing at work, but it's been working and I feel good. I I test my blood, all my levels is all all perfect, and I was like some something, something happens the way humans eat, or dogs or anything. Bro, it's just life. You are what you eat.
Speaker 1:That's the saying you are what you eat that little peanut that used to walk around you are what you eat from head up to your feet.
Speaker 1:I don't know how I? I mean don't get me wrong here, I do not. I'm not the best eater either, because I'm trained already. You know what I mean. I'm not the best eater either because I'm trained already, you know, into the way I eat and I'm. I'm a, I'm a creature of habit. I'm a human being, we creatures of habit. So we won't eat the same things over and over again. But, like the thing is, we crave. I crave mcdonald's. I don't, I don't even really like mcdonald's, but I crave it because what they get inside of it, you know what I mean. Hey, and you don't even see m's commercials on the TV anymore because they don't need to be. Back in the day You'd see McDonald's commercials, almost every other commercial. Now they don't even have to advertise.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's true they got us already.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's already in our DNA right Stamped.
Speaker 2:It's nuts because I saw like this thing on Instagram where the old McDonald's and you probably remember the one, probably remember the one kaniyoy had the playground, had all the characters, was all nice and like kid friendly. Now you look at them, look like one office, like one office building. You go in there, touch one huge ipad and out comes your food. Yeah, exactly, it's nuts, bro, thank you for my meal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everybody, everybody's story, bro, I had one truck that was basically sitting for like 10 years, right, and I'm going to truck, but the only thing was looking in the interior had a pack of French fries from there, bro, pull them out, the burgers, obviously. The thing is the tape wouldn't feel, but it would look exactly the same as it did when it was coming up. This never had salt. It was wilted, obviously. Yeah, the same as it did was coming up. This never have salt was wilted, obviously, but yeah, never have no mold. No, no, nothing like wow, what could last that long in one truck? Humidity, humidity out the whole interior was all moldy, but that french fry was legit.
Speaker 2:Ah, that's pretty nice.
Speaker 1:I could have shown back in the deep fryer and probably chose some salt, and you wouldn't even know the difference. You know what I mean. But it's like, hey, they had, they got something. So again, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a robotic world. Um, yeah, monkey, see, monkey, do world. It's not even about taste anymore. Um, oh, yeah, it's, it's about posting, and we talked about earlier about the instagrams. But posting, and where's the next best and hottest thing? Right, yeah, this, and who's doing that? Um, so, so we just try to fit into that somewhat of that mode as best we can yeah, to get back to your raw dog food.
Speaker 1:So you've been feeding your dog well before you starting this company, raw dog food right, right, well, before and then I was just basically, what I'll do is I'll get it from the store at first, and then, um, maybe the last, and that was the first, probably. Yeah, I was up until 10 years. Yeah, five years ago I started getting from farms around here, um big island. They'll send me a lot of venison, so I don't go to hook up my friend. He had um eradication, um, um permit, so they'll get order from Molokai.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:They'll send them. But no, then Maui's fires went hit and all the supply had to get sent to Maui, which I'm like, okay, cool, but I couldn't sustain. Now I couldn't feed my dogs and I wasn't really selling at the time, I was just basically bringing some in. Some people would buy from me, but it was mostly for my dogs. So I was buying from my dogs and feeding that, grinding them, mixing them, doing all that kind of good stuff. And venison is a good, very good protein for the dogs, very lean, very, very good, yeah, yeah, very good source. So the dogs do well on that.
Speaker 1:But again went to maui and again I and I couldn't go and say no, I need to sure. And then so I went back, kind of like the store route, I was going to like the store on richard's meats and all that, trying to get. But again, um, the meat isn't. The quality of meat I found is, it's not. Then I started doing research, more research, about how they they're the coloring of the meat and how to get the coloring and all that, and learning that they started pumping and again, all these stuff, all these the meats, with all these extra preservatives and additives, that, um, that again our bodies is rejecting. So, um, okay, okay, how can I get the best optimum up to my dog stuff and get this stuff? So I started looking around, um, and there's a few places here that, um, that does it, that has raw dog food um, locally, and I reached out to to their farm and, um, I didn't kind of didn't get the touchy feelies I needed from them. So I started reaching out to different farms and I found this guy at a foundation, raw.
Speaker 1:His name is rich the berry, out in louisiana. Um, he's a presser canario breeder and um, he's a breeder just like me and I watched his video. Like it seemed like I was watching me out in the south the way he talks about his dogs, what he does with the dogs. You know just how he carries himself. So I'm like you know, in this world it's all about um, character and how. With the internet, which we attach ourselves to, is is who we become right, it's like you are with me, like you are who you follow, almost right, or who you comment. So, um, so no, his character and and everything like that kind of lined up with me and I was like, hey, rich, I'm coming down louisiana.
Speaker 1:He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, the last 10 guys said that too and I went down, I'm here. He was like what? You here? I'm like, I'm here, bro, I'm here from Hawaii. Yeah, I went down there and I met with him and, um, just kind of did one shake hand deal and said I want to bring your food to Hawaii. I've been watching you and I love what you do. And um, he was like I'm on board, let's go go.
Speaker 1:He's a super solid guy, like I said, super customer service driven. He helps out. His videos is basically like mine and I never knew, I never seen the guys beat him up six months ago. So, again, my videos kind of align with his and just the way we talk and again, what we're trying to do and how we're trying to produce with our breeding programs, and this kind of just fell in line with it. Um, his blends was was to me, top notch as far as um, the blends and what's in it and just, uh, the food itself. Um, you can smell the difference, you can see the difference. Um, but yeah, it's a touchy, feely thing and my dogs every one of my dogs, and every one of dogs I've ever heard is like, I mean, they eat pretty fast, but this, they slurp them up. My dogs, every one of my dogs, and every one of dogs I've ever heard is like I mean they eat pretty fast, but they slurp them up. My dogs cry literally. They don't cry for any other food, they cry for this, like literally cry.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's funny, that's nuts, yeah. So you have a partnership with that guy. He kind of sends you the meat in his raw.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so I'm just a distributor, I guess I'm the, I'm the um. Yeah, I'm a, I'm a local, I mean I'm the hawaii distributor, so I get the whole way. So basically I went up there and asked me if I can have hawaii and um, I'll distribute all this out here. He said, yeah, no problem. So yeah, and what he does, they ship it, he um, we frozen.
Speaker 1:So it's the the hardest part about raw meat you got shipping frozen so the shipping alone gets gets kind of pricey. Put it this way the shipping is is almost 50 percent of what the actual cost of the food is, because it comes. It comes from um deep out there in the midwest and they gotta truck it to california. So they truck it to california in a frozen box from california. I get my guy out there, picks him up on it and puts him in a frozen container, in a frozen, um yeah, container, and ships it out to to the dock here and then we go oh, wow, yeah, so you're getting big shipments at a time then we get a pallet, a pallet at a time, which is 2300 pounds.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, yeah, we get it's a lot, it's 70. Yeah, we get two pound chubs. It's thousand something chubs oh, and what?
Speaker 2:once it's on the island, you don't have to keep it frozen, or?
Speaker 1:oh, no, no, yeah, I get freezers that freeze, them, yeah, yeah yeah so it's a whole.
Speaker 1:It's a whole issue. I rotate them, so there's a rotating. I get freezers with with um, with temperature, um what do you call it thermometers hooked up to wi-fi and temperatures. Yeah, I get um commercial freezers that I keep them in and that's super. But one thing has been good is I've been kind of um, it's been kind of moving, so we haven't been having to really keep them too long. Oh, that's good, your blessing. Yeah, I cannot complain um it's. It's moving thanks to your, your kind of um, your podcast the last time you said it's it's one in 20 people, the way I see it, right, one. You you tell 20 people. I'm one person, 20 people. He's gonna tell 20 people.
Speaker 1:So yeah, for sure platforms like yours really helps us out oh, right on, and so that's.
Speaker 1:That's kind of a lot you've been been shipping in like how often the shipments come in um, we had, so it's about month and a half so far oh, wow yeah, but it's kind of stressful, so it's because it's frozen meat and for me I'm a little bit poor to get here, I kind of like and I gotta learn to, but it's like it's frozen meat. So, but you, and for me I'm a little bit Portuguese, I kind of like and I got to learn to, but it's like it's frozen meat so. But you know, one thing is great about the shipping is super professional. These guys, these truck drivers and all that, they know what they're doing. You know what I mean? Yeah, so call me on. So it's a good little team that Barry gave me. So basically, rich gave me his guy, his guy takes it to California and then I get one guy in California that brings it here. So it's again a great team that I'm blessed with.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's super cool. So for the food itself, what is inside the chub that you guys giving out, or is it different? Do you have variety?
Speaker 1:yeah, so we get. We get a couple different blends, um, right now we're going to stick to three blends. Three blends is is um, one of them is heritage blend and and basically it's all beef blends. They all um, yeah, they're all beef um muscle meat, basically um, so they get it's 80, 10, 10 they call them the blends. You get the um, the muscle meat and some tissue in there, and then you get 10 of um secreting um um organs, and then you get 10 of bone. So you get spleen, you get um, you get kidneys in there, you get liver, um, you get bone. The bone is for calcium. So, okay, what is for calcium? Um, the meat is for amino acids and the protein um, the ground bone is for the calcium, the liver, and gives you vitamin a and it's for help for immune function, um and for oxygen, um support with some iron along with iron, oh, and the kidneys provide um, selenium and iron.
Speaker 1:I'll get more iron too for the overall support. But what also does is it helps with their teeth, it helps with their fur, it helps with all of that stuff too. Oh, and then we get um. One of them has then it tripe. Green tripe is a probiotic. Basically Green tripe is great for gut. They call them gut resets and what happens is a lot of these dogs get inflamed like allergies and all that and a lot of the tripe helps reset their guts. And then we have pollock in there. So pollock is a fish, basically codfish, that we would eat in. You know a lot of cod in the fish and chips that we would eat. But that helps with the amino acids and I mean the immunities and fatty acids. So, yeah, three things you need is fat, um, fiber and protein for your meal. And then from there we add we also add, like fruits, some blueberries, um, that's about. I add about one percent, so say that you got to put that's. That's the kind of stuff we've got to monitor. Make sure, throw a couple of those in there.
Speaker 1:Um, again, green beans good for fiber, um yeah so, yeah, there's additives we put in there, or I put in there natural stuff that that helps with all of that good stuff. And then pumpkin, pumpkin is on great. So if your dog is sick, your dog not feeling well, you or you think your dog is warm, there's some natural, again warmer, that will help again reset their gut and kind of give them gut health. Which is raw pumpkin 100% organic pumpkin in the can. The canned pumpkin is the pureed one.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yep, you feed them. Give them one bowl and thalaparap daily and you can see a difference. With the raw, along with some of the fruits, like I talked about, and with some of the other stuff, with some pumpkin in there, you can see some energy level difference against the fur teeth and that helps with the overall health. Um, like I've always said, if me and you, me and you, but we talk about mcdonald's, I mean eating mcdonald's is out. See, in mcdonald's for the first 15 years of our life, we we're not going to feed him at 25. We're not going to feed him at 30. We're going to feed him at 40 or 45. Now we're going to start feeding him Kind of with these dogs. They're like oh my dog, he's good on the kibble. Yeah, he's good. But when he gets older and when you have to vet once a month because his teeth is decaying because of the kibble, like, that's why we soak the kibble.
Speaker 1:You soak, you take on kibble. I gotta challenge everybody. Take the kibble. You try pulling a hammer to that thing. Brad thing is super solid, super. Imagine your teeth. Imagine you chew. That's like chewing on corn nuts. You know I mean corn, yeah, yeah, that's like eating corn nuts. All the time that was out loud in my house, my mom was like no, that thing gonna break your teeth, you're not eating those.
Speaker 2:I remember those.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah halloween yeah, yeah, normal nutritional value about something, hard corn bro, yeah, like that kind of stuff. So same with the dogs. It's um, I try to help gut. For me, gut health is number one. And when they talk about we breed for health, yeah, you can breed for health.
Speaker 1:It doesn't mean your dog can stay healthy yeah, you can breed a healthy dog and still can become sick by whatever you feed them. So, yeah, there's a big misconstrued with all of that too, um, with that part. So I try to educate along with um with show by experience of yeah, over here so what you never try?
Speaker 2:chance one of these chubs, like fry them up and try to taste them.
Speaker 1:Is that a yes or no? But I did so. I did. Well, I I will tell you I eat. What I did was, um, I make treats out of them. I make me treats. So I did sample them a little bit. Very gamey, very gamey For me. I'm a processed guy. I like gaminess but I'll eat a bison burger, but that thing is on the spectrum. You know what I mean. But this bug is gamey, but no, there's nothing in there. That's not what it is. It doesn't have all all we cannot say what nutritional value it has for a human yeah, yeah yeah, and because we are a whole different animal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like we're regulated by the fda. Yeah, so we well for them, for they got to put all this stuff, but again we don't. They don't put 90 of our labels. We can't even read, oh, yeah, 100%.
Speaker 1:The number one about this. You talk about the Chubb. You get one right here and I know it's backwards, but labeling is number one. There's a, there's a, what do you call? So we get calorie count on here. We get feeding guidelines, basically the distribution. We get the guaranteed analysis and then the ingredients and then we get them like four times. You know what I mean. A lot of people see some labels.
Speaker 1:They get one small over here in the corner and they get their nice label all big with a picture of their dog over there. Oh, yummy, yummy. But again, this stuff is in fine print and it's like oh man, so again, one of the reasons why I went with these guys is because of the labeling. Um, there's nothing to hide, uh, and to the guy himself I'm not talking to the guy, that's talking to the guy, that's talking to the guy. And that's why I said I met a few people that, oh, you feed your dogs this. Well, not, we don't feed them. That we feed them. What's it? Yeah, what come you don't feed dogs this? Like why? Why are you not feeding them stuff? That you're claiming that you're raising cattle?
Speaker 1:yeah you know what I mean. So it's like the labeling again. Labeling is key for for everything, for me as as far as that goes.
Speaker 2:But no I did try them um a little bit gamey for me um for for dogs you were explaining last time you came on they can eat raw, like raw meat, raw dog food or I mean anything raw that you're supplying. You're not cooking them first, huh no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So when you cook it, when we cook our stuff, like say you're cooking, say, a hamburger, get nutrition in there. When you're cooking all that water and all that runoff we cook, we're burning out the nutrients some of the nutrients in there.
Speaker 1:So say I don't know the numbers, but say you had 100% nutrients when you was cooking them. Now you probably only get, would say, 50, because the rest goes, goes down the drain. So with raw you you have all that. The nutritional value is still packed in there. Um, so that's kind of why you rather have them raw. And then the bones um, like I said, the bones have having um the marrow in the bones, um, the dogs cannot get salmonella. Now I would recommend there is times where you cannot like this chubs can last three to five days in the, in the, in the fridge right but anything after that.
Speaker 1:I mean, those won't get sick if they eat bad food. They don't get sick. They can get sick, but they cannot get salmonella like we can get by eating raw stuff. But I tell everybody, when growing up my grandfather used to eat raw beef, bro, and just put sprinkle lemon on them and thinly sliced beef.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah Beef tartare.
Speaker 1:What is beef tartare? It's raw beef, exactly so it's like.
Speaker 2:He's like Sorbo eat the UK and just crack the raw egg and mix them up. Yeah, I would mop that too. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:So it's, but again we was trained. It's, but again we was trained. Just like with the kibble. We was trained to do this because we saw the last person doing this. We saw the people that we trusted growing up doing this because that's all they knew.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And at that time again, the kibble industry was taking off 1900s, so everybody was pumping, making money off of that. So I mean, that's all you knew. And then, like I said, the tin cans got outlawed, yeah things. So now paper bags and it, okay, I can't sell meat anymore. Um, and the, the horse, and I go back to the horse. Horse don't even have nutritional value either. So feeding a dog horse was nothing, they just had abundance of them just easier.
Speaker 1:People pay for convenience and they don't care about yeah, and, and the people behind it don't mind taking your money. Oh yeah, enough for you, right? Yeah, exactly, so that's what, that's what hot dogs, and and all that baloney and all that convenience, right.
Speaker 1:Well, we could do all that. Somebody gonna eat it, like I've always. In the training world there's a dog for everybody. Well, I don't eat bologna. I've never got the like vienna sausage, never. My brother didn't pound them. I'm like it never, just like was just weird to me that's me too, bro bologna.
Speaker 2:I can't, I cannot smell everything bro. Yeah, how do you get?
Speaker 1:that ring around like how do you even get that thing to even be there? That means the thing start off with liquid brother yeah, exactly yeah. You can't put a solid piece in there and just wrap something around. It start off with any yep.
Speaker 2:Oh, bro, that's why I'm out, bro. Yeah, I don't care if you fry them or what, bro, you still don't know what that is, bro and you know, like, like I laugh.
Speaker 1:We're like, how come you love ketchup so much? I'm like because I grew up on processed food. I grew up on hamburger. Helper, you grew up on hamburger helper.
Speaker 2:So like sloppy joes out there. Yeah, that was my masking bro. So now it everything. Just he's better at this point, but again, we've trained that way. Yeah, um, I had a question about if you had a dog and he pre the your dog was on regular like kibbles or whatever food. How is it to switch them back, to switch them over to raw? Do you got to do it like a transitionally, or one time you can just cut them and then give them the raw food and gonna be, gonna be all right, or?
Speaker 1:just you know, transitional you do about 10 a day like I tell everybody what I tell everybody.
Speaker 1:When they first bite, when they first try my food, I tell them it's called the meatball meatball technique. Basically I take the, take a meatball and give them to the dog when, during the day, when he's not eating nothing. Because, again, that you just never know how the dog reacts. And one thing you touched on earlier about your skin, so skin, fur, teeth, all that tells you how healthy your dog is and the reactions of your dog. So you give me meatball and if you don't see no reaction, you continue with that, I'll give them two meatballs. If you don't see no reaction, you continue with that, I'll give them two meatballs. You don't see nothing give them three three, four days.
Speaker 1:By that three, four days, you should be able to transition them um a week and you can a week, but it all depends on your dog. Again, if, if, within three days, you're gonna see the difference, you're gonna see the dog's not gonna do well, the dog's gonna gonna do a little bit better on it.
Speaker 2:Um so, that's super cool yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I try to transition them that way and um, and I look, I try to tell everybody. I'm not here to tell everybody do not feed kibble. You mean I'm not yeah, I'm not here not that guy to tell you what to feed your kids. All I'm here to tell you is 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, whatever percent you're feeding them. Is this much more nutritional value that you're adding? That's all it's going. What if it's a topper? At 10, you're adding more nutritional value, like, like I've said on one of the videos, if you're just eating mcdonald's. That's why mcdonald's put apples in their happy meals, right, you ever tried those apples? It's not even bad. I'm like it's like what kind of chemical? But the fda said that they had to add nutritional value to their food. Yeah, some apples in that darn thing. And again, I do not.
Speaker 2:I do not recommend you trying those apples bro, I trip out because I cut off apples just last weekend for my daughter's volleyball tournament and by the time we was halfway through the tournament I grabbed the apples. It was all brown.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Because they was exposed, oxidized or whatever. Those McDonald's apples in the little packets stay nice and yellow all the way until you eat them. Brand new Exactly. And I don't know how they're doing them, but they're spraying them with something Going back to the French fry, bro.
Speaker 1:It's a preservative. Again there's certain people get away with certain measures and again that's a whole other conspiracy way. But they're a big entity in the US world.
Speaker 2:They bring a lot of revenue, so I mean they can kind of do what they want to do. And, like we said, fast food is convenient, bro. No need to cook, no need to go to the store, you just go over there, stop on the way home and you're good. So the raw food is gaining popularity. What are like is it feasible to switch over? Like, say, is it way more expensive? Or like you can work it out.
Speaker 1:What I've found. It's it's depend, it all depends. It's it is more expensive, more expensive, Just like this, Like if, if, if, when, if you talk to one, one vegan or one vegetarian, they're going to tell you that their meal is triple what a regular person is and if it's?
Speaker 1:not, it's only if I'm as much as them, it's because I'm eating more mcdonald's, eating more outside food, but yeah, it's because of that value. So, um, but yeah, so that's the, that's if the cost is the one, and that's why I always push like, hey, if you're adding a little bit, this is a little bit better for the dog. But I'm a firm believer that people overfeed their dogs and they don't understand the ratio of their dog. Um, you know, it's the, it's the grandma to the grandchild boy. You look skinny boy, yeah, I mean, and you know they don't understand, like your dogs. Like there's a, there's a, there's a measurement on your hand, basically your knuckles. That shows this. Knuckles, right, I don't know if you can really see them, but your ribs not supposed to show like this. The ribs supposed to be more like you're supposed to see some ribs. Your skin's supposed to feel like it's on the top of here yeah and tight like that and not supposed to be saggy, or yeah, yeah
Speaker 1:with all the problems. But because we look at the bag and we say, okay, it's like. Oh, the bag says we got to feed them three cups a day, that's what you gotta eat because you're gonna starve, right, the dog is like on kid, the more you feed him, the more you're gonna eat. Yeah, you constantly feel he constantly gonna eat and that's that's what it's all about, especially if I can, like I said I can, I can feed my dog till he dies. I mean I'll down. I'm not gonna ever do that, guys, I don't want, but I can basically do that it's.
Speaker 1:But the dog is, is, um, is gluttony. They're there, they're gonna eat like that and they're gonna eat, eat, eat. And they don't understand this. Why? Because they're like the kids. So it's up to regulate all of that. So when I first thing people say, oh, what do you think about my dog? I'm always asking you, sure you want to ask that question and I'm gonna give you the real of what I think I'm like. First of all, your dog is overweight, or why is your weight? I said, wait, hold on. I said, just look at, it's supposed to have. Dogs will have a figure, naturally have a figure, but you're supposed to be able to see the hips and all?
Speaker 1:of that now every body type is different, right, if your dog is big boned like an english bulldog, english bulldog, you don't see the ribs. Okay, that's where I'm trying to get that yeah so it's a per body type.
Speaker 1:I want to explain right now. It's per body type. But just because the bag or somebody says this is what you got to feed your dog, it's you learn your dog over a month you'll see your dog. If you're feeding your dog less and the dog starts, starts getting skinnier, well, just add more food. You're not starving your dog, you're not gonna kill your dog, but what you're doing is you're you're helping your dog get into that perfect metabolism to where he can keep the the fat that he needs and shed the other fat that he doesn't need. Yeah, because you get high metabolisms. Um, and another thing I do is I fast my dogs once a week. Oh, for real. Yeah, some people think that's true. It's reset again. Even for us. We supposed to look. Terry cruz speaks about fasting all the time, yeah, yeah he's older than us, bro yeah
Speaker 1:what abs that bug is. It's his how he fasts and and then how he eats and how he stacks his meals. But I fast my dogs on sundays, on the weekends, um for gut re, gut recheck and um gut reset. Knock out all the stuff. Um, I feed them basically that day. I feed them like I'll feed them fruits and I'll feed them some pumpkin and all that, but they won't eat no raw um any kibble or anything like that. Um and again I got reset. Then monday we go back at it and I feed them only once a day. So up into a year um it'll break down um eight weeks. Up we're gonna start from eight weeks. Eight weeks. They start eight four times a day. Um eight weeks up until about 12 weeks four times a day and then from and all every single time it's um whatever they're eating, it's watered down if it's kibble, because kibble the puppies need the kibbles, some stuff in the kibble the puppies need. So I do feed puppies kibble along with some other with the raw. I start my raw four weeks.
Speaker 2:My dogs four weeks old raw um.
Speaker 1:So I add them with the kibble and um at four, at eight weeks, like I said, four times at 12 weeks, three times from 12 weeks to about, I would say, about 16 weeks, about four months. It's three times and then we come down to two times from six months up until a year. It's only two times and then once they hit about a year, we get them down to one time a day. But again, that's the gauge. It all depends on their body type and what kind of dog they are and all that. So, um, but most of them is all in line with all of that and they do. I, we do well on it, my dogs do well and I have a lot of them over here. So I'm not talking about one, two dogs, we're talking about better of 10, that um, that I can gauge that from all different ages and they all do the same.
Speaker 2:They all do well well, well, that makes sense too and like feasible wise, if you only feed them once a day. If they get to that level, then it'll. It'll work out probably cheaper or just as just as good.
Speaker 1:You know, I mean just as much I, I spend, um, if I'll do them, if I'll be buying on the outside, um, I'll probably about, say, I spend $100 on a dog a month, feeding whatever, but for the food, say that it's probably only about $140, maybe $150. You know what I mean. So it's not that much. It seems like a lot, but it's not that much if you really put it outside and think of it. As you know, that's my family member. Well, if that's your family member, you can budget. Type your family member another 50 bucks a month. Now again, if you cannot, there's other ways to do it with fruits and all that. You can always add nutritional value some other way. But you can't just say, oh, I only get feed pedigree because I can't afford it. Well, if you can't feed them, don't breed them or don't buy them.
Speaker 1:Exactly, yeah, if you can't feed them, don't breed them or don't buy them, exactly yeah, because again you're not going to. You don't make kids just for feeding mcdonald's even though you like me but you want to add value to these dogs because again you're gonna end up in the in the um vet, yeah, and then you want to and, like you said, they are a member of your family.
Speaker 2:You're not going to feed your kids crap. Well, some people do, but you're not gonna purposely feed your kids crap. And yeah, it's like I've been having those talks with my daughter because she's an athlete. It's like, okay, you gotta stop eating this kind of stuff. Before you go sleep you get on bag skittles and then you go sleep. Well, you think all that sugar and go like you gotta think about this kind of stuff now. It's not, and um, that's the thing. That's what got me to do this diet.
Speaker 2:She's like, oh, you don't got abs like oh, I see I seen your picture when you used to fight and you look like bruce lee. But now, look you, you're going and it's okay, challenge accepted. Then, yeah, that's the worst thing you can do is try and challenge my discipline, because when I turn it on, it's on, but it's the same right. And that's why I'm so intrigued about how you are doing this. Because of the value of nutrition in everything, because, right, it matters. And, like you said, the dogs become your family. If you like your family around, then you gotta, you gotta, feed them the good stuff. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's it. And I think the difference between us and a lot of or some of the other dog food out there, nobody's educating. They're just putting their dog food on the, on the, on the in the stores and hoping I'm out here trying to educate and making sure. I mean, even though if you don't go with us or not if you're with another raw dog food company, as long as you're taking care of dogs, I'm all for it. I'm here to push the whole community forward. You know what I mean. Like I said, I'm not here to take away from nobody, it's the education is key and that's how we will come better as a whole, no matter what.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's what I was super stoked about talking to you was how educated you are on this stuff and it's cool, bro. It's cool to see local kaneo boys like diving into something they're passionate about and learning. A lot of. A lot of our friends don't want to put in the work to learn and be able to talk and spit on what can make changes because it's like, oh, I heard this, I heard that I can hear a lot of teams get so much, bro, science out there that you don't know what's real.
Speaker 2:And then you dove in and did it the right way. What's real? And then, and then you dove in and did it the right way, and and now, like if people come to you at questions they say this, this and this or this is why, this is how. Then I did it myself, so now I can I get hands-on experiences. It's kind of cool to see brad. It's. It's cool to see one of my friends doing that kind of stuff, you know? I mean like that's fucking cool.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, no, yeah, I love, I love it again. At the end of the day it's a passion and, and sometimes passion kind of overflows, as as a little bit of maybe I don't have to say arrogance, but a little bit of of pushiness, and sometimes a little bit of like, oh, this guy, but my, my, I get two p's in me my passion and my portage. You know, I mean that I cannot turn off, but there's some that that coincide and cannot turn off. I, I, I think I I was a project manager and estimator, for I started when I was 23 years old. I started from a painter in the union and I was like, I know, I'm painting, I love painting, no game. I loved it because of just the tranquility and just looking back and like, oh, I did that, did that, like the beautification of something, and I really stuck in the industry.
Speaker 1:But I became a project manager, estimator. So I look, I still was that blue collar guy, but in a white collar seat. So and I have to be a certain guy and I have to explain why I'm the best candidate for, for to build on, to go build and paint your, your, your, your big million dollar pie rise or whatever it is. So I think I brought some of that over. I'm not going to say professionalism, but some of that, just a little bit of the education that I got to have to sit and talk intelligently in front of a crowd about your product and stand behind it, because a lot of people are just standing over there and reading off a teleprompter and say it was like good, did I do good and okay, and they're not. They're not preaching what they're doing.
Speaker 2:Like I said I've I get um the dogs to show for it, that uh and um, but yeah, that's, that's, that's cool and since you've been running this program, you've been being able to distribute your dog food in stores and stuff all over the island, or they just people just order online.
Speaker 1:So my goal is to be on distributor for the stores and what I first, when I first came out, it was kind of an identity crisis because I'm how do I push my stuff forward when I just can put them in the stores and try to start from there? So one thing is good is it was again I'm blessed for have right off the bat, like the first week, pet Depot um in um ever beach Ryan over there. We dealt with Ryan on a few occasions as far as um dog shows went, so, um, we kind of had a relationship already. But I'll call him up and he's like, yeah, bring them down, let me check it out. Took him down to him. He see, actually I sent him to my website because what I did is I built the website, did everything and then I'll present that. I said I have a website, check it. Not the kind of, hey, yeah, it goes, go look at the other guy. So so I check out my website, your website already. So I had my website before the food even landed. Yep, got everything right there. So he go check with that. Oh, I love. So he basically loved.
Speaker 1:What I love saw what I saw the labeling, um, just kind of the backing and then he can go look on um the foundation raw um mr berries website. I see see the movement, I see um kind of what they're doing and he just kind of bring them on um and he has a few other raw people in there. But yeah, we're doing. I mean it's uphill climb but we're, we're moving our stuff in there. Um, we also get them in enchanted lakes. In kailua another guy garrett, he was um blessed us to have it in his store and then west side supply in y9 we got them over there. So yeah, these guys been very I've been blessed um, the hard part again is being there.
Speaker 1:I I don't want to be their competition yeah um, I have a few customers that that um was there from the beginning. That kind of hit me up in the beginning and when I first started website I put it out there like hey, when they're coming in, let me know. So they jumped on board but they don't buy much, um. So again, my goal is to just supply the stores and more stores out there and I just can kind of be a distributor that's super good, brian um, you built your own website.
Speaker 1:Like you, you made your website I wish my wife was here, but you know I get on good, great partner um that helps me and wife is a librarian.
Speaker 1:I'll bet she's a hawaiian state librarian up at winter community college. Oh, she's very, very keen at it. But building a website, oh man, it's like the top five of almost getting divorced. It's brutal, bro. It was fun on this couch, right back here, this couch, this couch can tell you. Look at my videos all my dogs on this couch. So this couch, right back here, this couch, this couch can tell a tale If you look at my videos all my dogs on this couch. So this couch can tell a tale because we do a lot of work on this couch, but no sitting over here every day and kind of going back and forth, back and forth, because we're dealing with a couple people. So she built it but we also somebody.
Speaker 1:But, bro, and there's no translator on fiber. So you know it's direct human communication, so what we tell them, it's got to be translated into their soils. It was an uphill battle, um, but no, compared to some of the other websites, would it cost us two grand fiber and cost like a hundred, two, three weeks. And the guy was there with us. But it was stressful, yeah, so thanks to my wife, she's oh that's not a lot.
Speaker 2:She helps me out a lot that's super cool and, bruh, that's something to be proud of. You know me and, like you said, that's the first thing people do dot com. You hear him here on um businesscom and then they check the instagram and bruh, your instagram. You, like I said earlier, when we first jumped on before we started recording you turning into an one influencer social media guy. Bruh and bruh, you, you good in front the camera and it it's yourself. Like you start singing, you start being right, you're being khalil, you know, I mean like it's's hard, but you know, because it's it's.
Speaker 1:It's hard being in front of the camera because you're being critiqued, but no, yeah. So the goal, the goal is to just get better and find different ways and means that I can um use this platform. And it all started off just from breeding dogs. You know, I'm not I don't want to save myself from a breeder I breed, I breed dogs but and I get family, family members as far as the dogs goes. But it all started off with that basically, and I get all these shirts, I get them done myself, these hats, so it all just branches off from that. Stickers, you know what I mean. And then I help people get that. And then people come to me and I sell shirts, I sell hats, I sell stickers. So it's kind of yeah, it's kind of all over the place, but it's all just branches off of one main branch, I guess One main tree, but it's lovely.
Speaker 2:And with your social media. It's an ongoing marketing tool. You know what I mean and, like you said, you've been pretty consistent with it media. It's a ongoing marketing tool. You know I mean like and, like you said, you've been pretty consistent with it. And it grows. You know I mean, and that's how a lot of businesses get noticed nowadays. And social media is it puts a personality and a connection with who's ever watching it. Like I can watch you and then I meet you in person and be like oh bro, you are just how you are, and then I've been watching your stuff for so long. Then it's like you feel like that's your friend or something.
Speaker 1:Right, Just like me. I get some people I follow. Yeah, they see me in public. I shake their hand, but I don't feel awkward. I'm like, shake his hand because I'm his friend, but I'm not his friend. I don't know if he's over there Like, hey, that's the guy that like my stuff, man, how come he not over here coming to say hi? It's a kind of a weird vibe. I know who you are, bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had a couple people this last guy I had, he's a barbecue guy and he's from Hawaii but he moved to Montana.
Speaker 2:Oh, and I've been watching this stuff and this guy make lao, lao, palusami, oxtail, all kind of weird, crazy stuff, and the guy's on board by fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I, I freaking um, never. I like his stuff and once in a while he'll comment back. And then I had him on my show and I say talk to this guy like I was his friend for a long time and I I was like bro, my daughter is like bro, how do you know that guy? I was like I don't, I just met him, like that was the first time I ever talked to him.
Speaker 2:It's cool, but you know and like your local boy style relates to everybody here. And, like I said, I know you, so I know. When you're on instagram you're kaleo, is you ain't putting on this bullshit facade, like like you just being yourself? Yeah, exactly, and the camera on and they grow. It's growing, bro, like you're getting on following and I think with the community you guys are developing I I was kind of tripping out, I didn't know it existed to that bigger level and you guys are building it.
Speaker 2:The guys you had on my show last time, you guys are like heavy hitters because I was getting hit up by people saying, oh, I know this guy, I know that I had dinner with my friends and his family. And he's like, oh yeah, I know that guy, I know that guy had dinner with my friends and his family. And he's like, oh, yeah, I know that guy. And he calls them up while we're eating dinner and then he's like, yeah, come back on your show. And it's like, wow, you guys really have that community and you guys are what how you guys preach, you guys all about sharing and family and building it.
Speaker 1:And Brad those kind of stuff is is pretty cool. No, yeah, so all that is straight family events and that's why I sponsor a lot of them. Um, it's because of that I like to just be in the, in the, with the family vibes, um, and just trying to push the community forward, like you said. You know, there we, only one, one of us don't can do nothing. All of us together, we can push everything forward. And, um and again, the education behind. A lot of people don't even know that we even exist in this world. When I talk to people that I like because I wear my hat, my color called frenchie's hat, they're like what is that? How come you got a dog on your hat? Oh, I said go follow us in the fall of me and we'll be walking around ross.
Speaker 2:Then five minutes later, come back hey bro, I bro, I see this, I see it all, from uncles, I mean, to kids, to.
Speaker 1:They come back and I always try to carry one sticker and you just give them the sticker. You see them light up. You know what I mean. My wife's like what? You think I'm a celebrity? I'm like, no, it's right there. And that was hard right. If you look back in my old stuff, I couldn't. It's hard from the camera because, again, because of the authenticity, I didn't want to look. Look, not authentically. Right now, my, my wife would set me up with the, the fake background, my, with my foundation, right with the, and I'm sitting over there. I'm like, look, like a robot.
Speaker 2:I think I'm like I told her oh, I cannot do this because I don't look authentic.
Speaker 1:I need to show you what I sit right here every day. Yeah, you're in my living room so I need. I like to be like that, um, and that's the only way. That's the only way I'll believe myself, yeah, and you.
Speaker 2:you always been here's what you get, bro. That's how it is, bro, since we were little kids, it's Little League days, Bro.
Speaker 1:I remember them days Some good old days.
Speaker 2:But as a breeder, like you have your kennel Are you still breeding constantly right now, like you, putting out litters and stuff?
Speaker 1:Nah, for how I was. The way I breed is I breed to get something I breed for. I'm not going to say for a purpose, but I see two dogs. It's called phenotypes. Basically, I look up two dogs and if I feel like I have something that I can move and advance, and then I'll put those together and I'll breed Right now I'm not doing too much in-house breeding and then I'll put those together and I'll breed. Right now I'm not doing too much in-house breeding. I get co-owns that I'm mentoring and once they get to a certain age then we'll breed. Then. But I don't try to like a lot of people. They just breed, breed, breed to keep themselves relevant or whatever the case may be for them. But for me again, if I see like right right now there's some dogs that I see, once they mature, we're gonna put them together, I feel like we're gonna advance ourselves. So, um, I think we're onto something.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to build a bloodline, which a lot of people is not doing anymore. Back 10, 15 years ago, people build bloodlines, meaning they're stacking their pedigrees and making sure that they get the best of the best phenotype genotypes. Whatever you're looking for, but you're trying to build the best, the best prototype for one dog that you're trying to do. And now it's not like that. So there's a phenotype compared to a genotype, and phenotype is the look of the dog, um, the, the stature, the head, the shoulder pieces, the bone and all that.
Speaker 1:Right, you know, genotype is just basically the color of the dog and the dna of the dog. So, um, a lot of people is more for the genotype right now. Color, they're trying to get that exotic. Like I tell everybody, you get anyone, um, candy apple red for tourists, candy apple red, it doesn't mean, it's anything. A jaguar, a jaguar is a for tourists with a jaguar, jaguar emblem. So, yeah, yeah, right, but I try to um make sure that again, uh, I'm not gonna say I try to get the best out of best, but I try to get the best out of best out of what I have yeah and try to just do them like that.
Speaker 1:So I'm kind of early on in my in my pedigree building, but I'm pretty, pretty close to where I need to be. I said two more, two more years. I should be exactly where I need to be and that's calico calico yeah, so I get two, I get frenchies and then I get bullies.
Speaker 1:So calico frenchies, I try to separate them and everybody you should have kept them on the bullies, and you know, again, I try to be authentic because a frenchie is not a bully when you talk about bully, when bully. So we're going to go on fast. History of an american bully. American bully came from um the old pit bull terrier. They took the old pit bull terrier, they took him to the english bulldog, they bred that, they had a bone to that, they had a little bit made different head.
Speaker 1:So you see a lot of me, you see a lot of bullies. Now they get wrinkly faces, real short snouts, so they want to add all that stuff. But with that is they brought in all the allergies and all the issues, hip issues, all that that the english bulldog has um, but with that is they brought in a different color of chocolate so that they unlocked another dna, um ll in there. So that's basically why they did that. But then they started bringing them to the frenchie to get them smaller. So like smaller, more bigger, more exaggerated, more extreme dogs out there. So that's basically what the history of the the bully is. So now they're just trying to perfect it. So that's kind of why I wanted to separate the good, my bully brand, from my car, from my frenchie brand.
Speaker 1:Um oh, I see stickers totally different, different, everything um. But it's all under calico oh okay, so people can seek you out for that, if once you start producing litters and stuff yeah, you see me, calico, frenchies, and like I tell everybody, just ask if if I was like everybody asked me what's available, just ask you like something on my pgc? See, just ask. I try not to sell adult dogs because once I get the dog, once they're about six months, right, they're my dog.
Speaker 2:It's hard to that's family, even if that's number 12,.
Speaker 1:Right, it's hard. You feed them every day, you look them in the eye. I pet them. It's hard, so I it's, it's, it's hard. So I yeah my wife's like we still didn't read them to to sell them and I'm like, yeah, we do, we do, but again, I, I love these guys.
Speaker 2:My daughter didn't love them, so it's uh oh, that makes it way more hard to uh once your kids get attached. Yeah, yeah, my nine-year-old she's all about.
Speaker 1:All of them helped me out like I fly my daughter down here from vegas um a couple years, like the last two years for helping, because helping she has little pullback heads.
Speaker 1:So that's where puppies are in, helping. So you help and like I'll pair, I pair a flight and I pair 500 bucks a week to help my dogs. So when you talk about expenses and all that, that's why the dogs are so expensive, because what happens is these dogs are more of the frenchies now. Frenchies are small with big heads, small body, big heads and they're boring. They three ounces bro yeah, I mean I'm sorry, um, three pound, not even three pounds.
Speaker 1:No, yeah I know seven ounce mines will come from five to 12 ounces. I mean the smallest three ounces. So small little guys, bro, but um, they cannot really move and they get smashed a lot, so a lot of Frenchies. The moms are kind of not skittish but they're kind of in that little bit realm of oh, what's going on out there.
Speaker 1:And they're very little bit high strung, so some of the moms don't do well, but I get blessed bro. I think it's because my dogs is basically free range, they all hang out with each other and we all kind of coincide together within um. They made it easy for my transition as far as well. People so yeah, but there's a big market with whelping. I mean, people charge up to about 1500 bucks a week and it's a market, people actually getting paid for it. It's because it's at the end of the day, you say five thousand dollars of dogs and you get dogs in there. That's thirty thousand dollars oh yeah, thirty thousand.
Speaker 1:You pay back for for c-section is four to five grand. Um, if you have to pay for a stud fee, that's up to up to ten thousand. Some stuff, some stuff is 20 grand, but it's even stud fees. A hundred thousand, oh shit, yeah, yeah, so I, but it's even stuff. He's a hundred thousand, oh shit, yeah, yeah. So I mean it's it goes. It goes crazy. It's because so the, the stud fees put it. Say, if you buy into a dog, it's the, I mean, that's the most expensive dog. Um, that the biggest dog, grim, was the one, but hundred grand. Right, you get his stud fee, but his pups can go for like 20 grand a piece, 25, 000 a piece. So if you're lucky, you get six pups in the first litter, 10 pups in the first litter. You're basically making your money back and then you, yeah, you get another litter off that dog. Now it's all profit so true lucrative?
Speaker 1:nah, you can make money, yes, but what happens for me is I spend about 1500 bucks a month feeding these dogs a month yeah 1500. I said that correct, 1500 out there. So, and so it's again when you ask, and if you ask oh, how come my dog is so expensive? Dogs not expensive. Your, your, your kia in your garage, your honda civic is 30 000 so it's like we talk about and these dogs last 10, 12 years.
Speaker 1:Not too many cars out there gonna last that long, so yeah family members, yes, but taking care of them to make sure that they um best to their ability.
Speaker 2:100 that's true, and you seem to know what you're doing. So they're they'll last normal than most too, especially with how you're feeding them.
Speaker 1:We try yeah, again, it's like anything. Like you said talking about your daughter with the athlete, we just try to give them the best fuel that they can burn off and take. It's like jet fuel. That's why jet fuel is so good, because they need that burn off out there. You know why? Do you think there's three grades of fuel in just regular gas, bro? How come?
Speaker 2:we don't want one, we'll get a tree.
Speaker 1:It don't make sense. Exactly Like how bad is the? Is the last one compared to the first one? Yeah, why is there one in the middle? Yeah, the bottom one is that bad.
Speaker 2:So you say what do you need it for, like why, why?
Speaker 1:yeah, yes, and I tell you what two times, literally two times my old truck, two of my old trucks before two times, and I don't like mentioning names, but there's a blue wave um label based out here that messed up my, my injectors, bro. Oh damn, I use the other one, the chevron guy, or the star guys, and the chevron, it's the only. I only use chevron x to go in 76, that's the only gas 76. I use shell for my motorcycle, so it's the only one so 76 in conway to get the.
Speaker 1:My uncle him always say to get the good racing gas, to get the cleanest gas on. I've always followed that but I was a chevron guy. But it's like else, it's what you put in your body, what it's going to burn and how it's going to use that fuel to their advantage right, that's funny.
Speaker 2:I was a Chevron guy now, but obviously I was a 76 guy, because that's where we used to work. With all the hooligans, but even Chevron and Kaneohe canoe. They sell ethanol free gas right and, like my dad brought me up that way, you got to get the ethanol free gas for the lawnmower and the weed whacker because the ting would dry out all the gaskets. If you, if you it's like. Now it's embedded in my head, so that's all I grab when I'm using for my lawnmower and stuff.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's like Shell gas station, ghetto man.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's like why?
Speaker 2:why the difference? You right bro. Why the difference? Like should it all be good? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Cause, my, my, your lawnmower is the same. Yeah, yeah, because your lawnmower is the same. Yeah, you bought the ethanol-free carbureted lawnmower.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You're like how come? It's because they train you that way. And again, this is what you need, and this is why that's why I always tell people like Lamborghini or Ferrari they don't want commercials, right, they don't need.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:They don't like you walking around their, their showroom, bruh. They already get their people. People go over there. They already want and they do, and it ain't us right, it ain't us I ain't going there, yeah yeah, they're not. Again, they don't like. No, looky lose for sale. Oh, the new lamborghini came out. Let's go look at the showroom. Hell, no, he ain't coming over here. Yeah, but that's why? Because again, it's uh, it's the critters they're walking around yeah, well, shoes, we've been going for over an hour.
Speaker 2:Where can people find you on instagram if they want to get your dog food or check out your kennels?
Speaker 1:instagram right here. Oh, this way, I don't know. Oh, brah, I'm the opposite. Ifeed Raw Hawaii. Yeah, ifeed Raw Hawaii for my Instagram. Put it this way Call me up, you get any questions. I don't put my. Everybody say, oh, your phone number. Just call me up if you get any questions. A lot of people, they're more personable, they don't ask questions on the internet. They me up if you get any questions. Or you go to our website right here. Um, I feed raw hawaii. You can look them up. That we got an education center on there tells you the transition, like you talked about earlier, the transition of the food we talk. We talk about the weight, how, um, there's a calculator on there. Um, talk about what's what's good for the dog and why, why, um, what the food, what the values are and all that. So, um, but yeah, you can find all the information on our website and then, if you want to see our dog stuff, just follow us at calico frenchies on IG or calico bullies and for us.
Speaker 2:You can find us on Instagram at above the bridge podcast. On Instagram, our YouTube channel above the bridge podcast, our website is atbpodcom and my personal Instagram is thaddydaddyhigh All right on. I know. One more thing I want to ask you. This is just one personal question. I always ask like people that's getting popular on Instagram, you get haters or what Like hitting your comments and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:Not really, not really. You know, sometimes, sometimes like, it's more of the I don't like to say Dumb questions, but it's that question that you know it's a loaded question, like why you asking me this question? For it's kind of like oh, you know what I mean. It's like and it's you know I hate to say it, but it's more of my here's here than anybody else the, the mainland people I get a lot of love um from, but there's ones that's here, that it's. So again, it's the. Oh, but I heard this. Yeah, okay, you heard that. Why are you telling me who you?
Speaker 1:heard it from yes, I'm like that doesn't mean nothing to me, right, I heard, all right, but I heard this. Okay, if you're telling me, hey, this works for me, me brother, hey, I tried this before then it's been working for me, you should try them too. Oh gosh, sure, I'm all for it. You mean, I'm getting educated. I'm 100%, I'm yearning for education every day. But it's the like they said, the hazing part, it's the huh. Why are you asking me this question, kind of like do you know the answer or are you just fishing for an answer? You think you know? Yeah, this is what you do, and we can conversate. You know, that kind of conversation is going to spring into some bigger conversation that we can even dig deeper and we can really get better. But yeah, but they're too. I think they don't get too emotional into that realm, because if they're not doing, if they're not doing that, they feel shame, right? Oh, I'm not doing that, and it's supposed to know. So that's where that for me.
Speaker 1:I don't not supposed to know everything, bro. I I don't know nothing, so teach me. I grew up in my house with Encyclopedia Britannica, so that's where we used to read. My father used to make us read. That's where I learned a lot of my stuff growing up the encyclopedia I was not shy. I never shied away from education. I think that's why I portray not shy to never shy away from education. I think that's what, why I'm, why you, you portray, or I portray myself to where I am, is because I love the education behind it our kids never gonna know what.
Speaker 2:That is how they get wikipedia on the internet and me and you still putting that, yeah, what is a?
Speaker 1:mountain lion. What lion is a mountain?
Speaker 2:exactly right, all my book reports, bro Came from encyclopedia. Oh yeah, imagine if we had the internet when we was little kids, bro, I'd be a plagiarism champion, bro Cut and paste That'd be probably Yanking every fucking day.
Speaker 1:For real? No, for real, bro. We had the freaking bro. It really had everybody in line over there, so we couldn't plagiarize. Where you learn that from if you plagiarize? So it's like it was getting into us, bro yeah, right on, bro.
Speaker 2:Well, I appreciate you taking time to come on my show. I definitely like have you back. I definitely want to see how far you can take this brand and doing your thing, bro. It's inspiring to me and hopefully a lot more local brothers out there can get on that level. And we kind of touched on it earlier, like how a lot of people we know see us doing successful and oh, why you don't do it this way? Or like crabs in a bucket. They don't want to see your success.
Speaker 2:But fuck, for me, I always believe in a rising tide floats all boat. If I can help you succeed, that's not gonna take any shine away from me, but it's gonna elevate you. And, brother, that's what I like, see, I I like to see all these Kanye boys making money and supporting their families and being successful. Like that's why we all like grew up. You know what I mean. And it's cool to see the young hustlers from back in the day being successful, doing things the right way. And, bro, it's a trip because you impressed me, bro, and it's cool bro.
Speaker 1:I think we just shame of scrutinized, getting scrutinized. A lot of guys, so a lot of guys with good education, this kid, you know. Like we go back to baseball. I was a pitcher, so I've always been scrutinized, I've always been in the middle, but and I believe it or not, I'm super shy and that's super, super shy. But those kind of moments make made me, make me who I am today and again, even now, you know this stuff, I'm shy, but it's again. I always have to rise to the moment and um, not saying, not saying I did all the time, but I always had to um and I, I kind of lived for it. So, but no, I appreciate you, bro, for even um having us on and um putting us out there like that. Like you said, country brothers got to stick together, but even local brothers at the end of the day you know what I mean we all like I see your podcast, all the guys, but it's pretty awesome. So let's give you the flowers, bro, I'll give you some.
Speaker 1:I appreciate you coming from Kanye and seeing what we all come from and and what you've been doing, I mean you time you've been part of the movement out here for for the club scene for I mean better 20 years. So oh, brah, yeah, and still going. And, and not only that, people don't understand what that means. It's not just saying, hey, come to my club, it's actually you guys actually helping the club brand themselves and build clientele. So you're you're more on the consultation side, but on the front end of it because you got to be there making sure everything is happening. So I applaud you guys, bro, for doing that. And and the club scene in in hawaii is is jumping. It's been jumping for the last 20 something years yeah, it's nuts, I applaud the for all of that, bro, so yeah, right on.
Speaker 2:I appreciate that it's getting. It's getting rough dealing with these young kids bro.
Speaker 1:Like.
Speaker 2:I say I always say they're all learning shit, I'm trying to forget.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they're getting different because what you tell them they're going to turn right to Wikipedia, like you said, they're going to look, but that's not it. Put your phone away, it is it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right on, bro Well shockers for the cameras. Jeez, right on, bro, well shakas for the cameras. We're out, shout out to the Artist Group Network. Aloha, aloha, thank you.
